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(List D refers to Richard’s List D
Vineeto’s Selected Correspondence Vibes
VINEETO (to Felix):
KUBA: Wow well this quote from Peter couldn’t be timed any better! Claudiu It is quite uncanny how things operate in actuality. Almost eerie for ‘me’ to try to wrap ‘my’ head around. Vineeto, it is as if you – by existing outside of the human condition and living securely locked inside eternal time – can “call the shots” before ‘I’ see them. But that is only because those things are already happening, it is ‘me’ that is behind schedule as ‘I’ am locked out of time. Once ‘I’ catch onto what’s happening it is too late, it’s already in effect. This has happened multiple times now and it’s a bit mind boggling. It is as if what Richard described in this correspondence is what is happening here. 
(Richard, Actual Freedom List, No. 22, 1 January 2010).
VINEETO: Hi Kuba, I have no idea myself. I did not know what was happening to you and I am delighted you told me. It
reminds me of Felix who asked me, what’s next, and he is already right in the middle of this ‘next’. The quote from Peter was incidental, I had followed another’s link regarding the description of “locked in time” and there at the end of the quote Peter said exactly what I had written to Claudiu, that “‘making sense’ then has to be abandoned for direct sensate experiencing.” It seems apperception has happened without any deliberate plan or thinking. But then, facts are the same everywhere no matter which human being and/or apperceptively conscious human being perceives them. “Once ‘I’ catch onto what’s happening it is too late, it’s already in effect”. It is “mind boggling” for you because sometimes developments happen which an outside observer can see a little earlier than the person that it is happening to. It is also the inevitable outcome of allowing the universe to run your life via pure intent instead of being in control via the controller. And sometimes genuine magic does happen (which no science can yet explain because it has to catch up
first), such as described in Richard’s tooltips in Peter’s becoming free report on the announcement page ( What Richard describes at the link KUBA: thereafter an analogy akin to that of a maestro conducting an orchestra is suggestive of the
actual in action. VINEETO: In 2009/2010 Richard did seem like “a maestro conducting an orchestra” for a while until events settled down. What happens at present is rather a demonstration that actuality is the same everywhere (in essence) and synchronicity happens, which may have something to do with common human consciousness devoid of psychic influence, plus the happy and harmless vibes notably increasing on the forum. I always wondered if there wasn’t such a thing as an existential network based on actual common human consciousness, and the psychic web simply piggy-backs on it and might atrophy at some point in history. However, there is far too little known to speculate any further. Cheers Vineeto
VINEETO: I have no idea myself. I did not know what was happening to
you and I am delighted you told me. It reminds me of Felix who asked me, what’s next, and he is already right in the
middle of this ‘next’. KUBA: Yes I first observed this happening around the time when I went out from control but I think I needed a bit more naïveté and confidence in my experience to write it out, this time I took the risk of appearing foolish haha. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, Mmh, you didn’t look “foolish” to me but naiveté can have that effect. When you live naively, i.e. when you don’t know what is happening next, because ‘you’ gave over the controls to pure intent living ‘you’, it is only to be expected to be happening more and more. You might as well throw the notion of foolishness out the window and have confidence in the “actually occurring stream of benevolence and benignity that originates in the vast and utter stillness that is the essential character of the universe itself”. * VINEETO: What happens at present is rather a demonstration that actuality is the same everywhere (in essence) and synchronicity happens KUBA: Yes synchronicity is a great word for what I was trying to get at. It’s funny because ‘I’ being locked away from the rest of existence experience it as if ‘I’ am making ‘my’ various discoveries in a vacuum. And yet there is a lot more actually going on. VINEETO: That would only be because ‘you’ are still pretending to run the show whereas your experiences prove otherwise (“a lot more actually going on”), such as experiencing fellow travellers as people in their own right. I am confident you experience them that way but are still surprised when the overall information you receive from such near-intimate experience doesn’t fit any of your pre-existing templates. It’s all good fun. * VINEETO: “Once ‘I’ catch onto what’s happening it is too late, it’s already in effect”. It is “mind boggling” for you because sometimes developments happen which an outside observer can see a little earlier than the person that it is happening to. It is also the inevitable outcome of allowing the universe to run your life via pure intent instead of being in control via the controller. KUBA: Well isn’t this another huge bonus of daring to step out from control, as Richard wrote “one is supported by the universe”. And indeed discoveries of a serendipitous nature can be made because of this. VINEETO: Exactly. So why allow the ‘controller’ to judge your serendipitous experiences with this backward yardstick? Doesn’t the ‘controller’ know ‘he’ is fired? * VINEETO: What Richard describes at the link KUBA: Yes this is something that I am discovering more and more these days and it’s another
one of those mind boggling things. Normally ‘I’ experience ‘myself’ as a lone ‘I’, forever separated and
sitting in ‘my’ ivory tower, where ‘I’ apparently run the show. And again there is so much more going on. It’s
wonderful to contemplate that all this is happening and the outcomes are clearly visible. VINEETO: Yes, this is this lost, lonely, frightened and very, very cunning entity sitting in the corner sulking for having lost some power instead of coming to the party which is in full swing, and gladly giving up their burdensome existence for a very noble cause – nothing less than peace on earth. I do understand from memory what a stubborn fellow ‘I’ can be. Cheers Vineeto PS: As for the “Maestro” in this quote “thereafter an analogy akin to
that of a maestro conducting an orchestra is suggestive of the actual in action” – it did give me an
existential jolt of puissance reading it – perhaps you do vaguely (?) perceive something which I cannot, as I do not
act according any ‘plan’ other than furthering peace on earth as well as I can.
KUBA: So yes in the end I am left with this word synchronicity and the realisation that ‘I’ clearly cannot do it unaided. It feels nice writing this out and letting whatever is left of pride disappear. After all even Richard needed Devika to “crack the code”. It is so obvious that human beings are so very intertwined with one another and ‘I’ cannot do it in a vacuum. Perhaps this is partly why it took so long for the first pioneer (Richard), to be the first certainly took something exceptional. Well each pioneer has to be exceptional but let’s say Richard was exceptionally exceptional. VINEETO: I am with you that only “exceptionally exceptional” people can
become actually free unaided, and for those who do there is a track record. Even Geoffrey reported how much he
appreciated the help received when Alan and Donna
And feeling being ‘Vineeto’ understood from the start that in no way ‘she’ could become free of ‘her’ own. There never was this kind of ambition either. Apart from the words written, the felicitous vibes/currents on the forum are certainly influential. However, given that the word synchronicity has much currency in the real world (rightly or wrongly attributed), it may not apply for every situation where you perceive it so, and this is because ‘I’ will grasp any opportunity to explain away and control any experience, even when it is outside ‘my’ capacity to do so, such as the magicality of the actual world –
Richard’s ambience-atmosphere-milieu effect may be a more apt description –
KUBA: There is also something quite sweet in giving up this pride and
seeing that “we are in this together”, as in that human beings have to work together to extricate ourselves
from this mess that we have landed in. Because in admitting that I cannot do it unaided I also realise that I am not
only doing this for myself. That indeed every time I inch forward, I am bringing others with me and vice versa, and
that this is happening not only by the words written but more importantly through the ‘psychic network’, the
effects of which are clearly visible on the forum. VINEETO: Yes and no. It is wonderful that this insight gives you a solid reason that becoming actually free is not only for your benefit but for everybody. And yet this self-sacrifice is still the decision ‘you’ have to make of ‘your’ own accord, by yourself. Just beware so that this motivation for altruism does not transmogrify into a feeling of belonging and thus pull you back into humanity (as you already demonstrated in you next post. Cheers Vineeto \ ROY: I think I get this intellectually but maybe I will only fully grasp how important it is experientially someday. I get the need to comprehend a concept and its opposite. So for example like Richard mentioned, I understand hatred because I also understand love, in contrast, and “one cannot exist without the other”. VINEETO: Hi Roy, This is exactly how it is intended to be. Richard’s reports and explanations are an invitation to induce contemplation and investigation to find out experientially how the human condition works in you and by extension in everyone. And once you find out for yourself, his words are a confirmation that you are not crazy – because almost everyone else follows the legacy/ beliefs of long dead people despite detrimental results. ROY: Maybe related to this… I also get that feelings are interpreted by me as good/positive or bad/negative — for me. So for example, I may feel discomfort in the gut due to feeling anxious and I label that as bad/negative. On the other hand, in a different situation, I may feel discomfort in the gut due to feeling excited and I label that as good/positive. And the physical sensation is exactly the same. Not sure if you would consider anxiety/excitement as twins. VINEETO: Every feeling/passion has a hedonic tone Richard has written about how fear, particularly existential fear, has always a thrilling aspect –
The very activity you are engaged in – to explore the depth of your ‘being’ – is a thrilling/exciting adventure, which excitement can overcome the fearful/daring discoveries you make. Fear and excitement are not twins as in opposites, they are two aspects of the same feeling. * ROY:
Interestingly I did some research and once more the concept of “vibes” shows up. I looked around on the site and still don’t understand what it refers to in the context of actuality, but I have to read more. For me vibes are in the same bucket of auras and crystals. VINEETO: I understand that presently vibes are merely a concept or belief for you. Most people are not experientially aware of vibes even existing, while some others are quite sensitive to their effect. To start with, you can observe animals responding to you via vibes – if you have a dog for instance, you can observe that it can sense danger for its master not only with their senses but via foreign/ aggressive vibes, it can sense if you are angry or friendly towards them even if you don’t show it via words or body-language. Here is an interesting experiential report from Claudiu –
When I became actually free I was curious about not emanating psychic vibes and I observed how (higher order) wild animals let me approach closer, i.e. not noticing my presence until a sound alerted them. The pet dogs of a client, who used to give ‘Vineeto’ a friendly welcome, took no notice of me after becoming free.
(Richard’s selected correspondence on Vibes and Psychic Currents ROY: Edit: Regarding the vibes, I used to believe in vibes. For example: “I don’t trust this person, because he is giving me negative/ weird vibes”. But eventually I realized it was just prejudice. For e.g., there was this one person I felt negativity towards and one day I was reminded of someone else, from my youth, that looked similar. I think now that somehow, unconsciously, this was the cause for my distrust. VINEETO: I guess that you still ‘believe’ in vibes in regards to acting according to your (unconscious) perception of them. But because you believe/think that felt vibes are “just prejudice” (flipping from belief to disbelief) you now notice/remember only what confirms your present concept. You can instead throw out both belief and disbelief and replace it with personal observational evidence you gather. You may start noticing how you check out approaching strangers psychically from a distance if they are ‘friend’ or ‘foe’ before you are even able to distinguish their facial expression or hear their voice. When I became actually free the first thing I noticed with astonishment that this was no longer operating so much so that at first I was disconcerted how I would be able to function safely in the world of people and events. It quickly turned out to be an unnecessary concern after all, as a freely operating intelligence is perfectly capable of looking after this body. ‘Vineeto’ had long been fascinated by psychic vibes /powers in ‘her’ spiritual years and as such learned to be cautious not to jump to conclusions either way. However, some experiences where so outstandingly obvious when ‘she’ experienced strong negative vibes/currents in several people ‘she’ interacted with at certain situations, it made ‘her’ even more determined to end the psychic ‘being’ in once and for all.
I found another one of ‘Vineeto’s’ observations in 2000 experiencing psychic currents (from a distance of 800+ kms) –
I have to add that at this time ‘Vineeto’ was aware enough of ‘her’ own feelings to know what ‘she’ experienced were not ‘her’ own feelings of ‘unity’, ‘we are all one’, bliss and love. ROY: Similarly, I used to believe in psychic connections. One time I had a panic attack out
of the blue and later learned that a person dear to me had died at precisely that time. And so I connected the two.
But nowadays I simply think this was a weird coincidence.
VINEETO: There are many reports from people having strong psychic intimations/ experiences at the exact time when a loved one died, so that seems to be a common human experience for those sensitive to it. Some time after your own experience your present concept of disbelief in psychic vibes/currents made you think otherwise. Yet you still don’t know what really happens. For investigations into the human condition it is most conducive when you are able to suspend both belief and disbelief as much as possible. After all, endeavouring to free yourself from the human condition you are engaged into an investigation into the depth of your psyche, i.e. your emotions and passions, and it can be both weird and wonderful. Cheers Vineeto
KUBA: (…) But indeed there is the third alternative of being
sensitive without becoming vulnerable, that is to say that my caring can be cranked up without it becoming an
emotional involvement. And that is a wonderful thing! It means there is no reason anymore to hold back on genuine
caring and consideration. It also means that I do not require the other to change, which means that for the first time
assistance can come freely. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, An excellent discovery! It can foster allowing an unprecedented openness and let the other be as close as they like without fear to get entangled and intimacy can flourish like never before. KUBA to Felix: So with feeling good as a baseline (something that can come to be expected as an “of course”) moving into the ”bester” territory will no longer be an escape or a fix, but rather something even more wonderful than what is currently experienced. And then if all else fails you are back to a general sense of well-being. I do remember at some point on the forum it was as if the methodological, in-control virtual freedom – as pioneered by feeling being ‘Peter’ and ‘Vineeto’ – went out of fashion. Which was kind of odd, of course Richard never went through this and also Geoffrey wrote about aiming for an actual freedom only. But taking myself as an example, the kind of person I was, with the kind of tendencies that I had – it was the most obvious and immediate thing to focus on. Still when I think about it now I would take a general sense of well being each moment again over an oscillation from anxiety into excellence every time. The other thing which I can write about from experience is that something incredible can happen
when feeling good is established as a baseline and so much so that there is less and less of a ‘normal’ to fall
back to. Then that movement into the “bester” territory is not a temporary escape (with the feelings
associated with this) and rather it has that delicious flavour of going into gay abandon – and then the socks can be
safely blown off. VINEETO: I much appreciate you are putting in a plug for the in-control-virtual freedom
and that you pursued it yourself. This is eminently doable and has enormous felicitous consequences not only for the
person doing this but has a ripple-effect for everyone they are in contact with. The happy-and-harmless vibes are
contagious (as Sonya recently reported Here Richard comments on the important role vibes play in feeling beings’ lives –
KUBA: So a question from me now… why the ‘doer’ in the first place? What happens to cause this? Is the ‘doer’ a creation of the social conditioning, a myth that is taught so that one lives with responsibility and is thus under control of the tenets of society? That in order for morality to function effectively one must exist as a ‘doer’, because if ‘I’ am apparently pulling all these levers then ‘I’ can be held under obligation and responsibility. It seems for me the ‘doer’ is a bit like the appendix at this point. VINEETO: Ha, it seems the ‘doer’ is indeed weakening substantially to even let you write such a sentence uncontested. KUBA: It seems it was something along these lines, that human beings observed that there were these instinctual passions which were a liability when living in a group and so a make-shift approach was to devise the ‘doer’. Because the ‘doer’ and responsibility/ obligation go like peas and carrots. It ‘worked’ so far as to control the excesses of violence and yet it inevitably leads to separation, resentment, duplicity etc. So it can never be a lasting solution. VINEETO: It wasn’t even planned like this. As soon as human beings live in a group they have to work out behavioural rules where everyone needs to fit in. Even stone-age people were not free of responsibility and restrictive rules, else human beings would not have survived and thrived. But as you observed, “it can never be a lasting solution” because nothing in regards to living together in peace has eventuated despite sophisticated morals and ethical dictates and technological advances. KUBA: But not only that, this ‘doer’ cements the human
condition in place. For if ‘I’ am not ‘my’ feelings then human nature is apparently set in stone. VINEETO: Yes, well said. If ‘I’ don’t acknowledge/ recognize that ‘I’ am my feelings then the actualism method won’t work, then ‘I’ am stuck with believing that ‘I’ am having feelings, and they won’t budge. Only when you can see that freedom is in ‘your’ hands can you start doing something about your situation and unravel the mess which is the human condition. KUBA: That in order to exist ‘I’ must assert ‘my’ role in what happens, but this goes against the facts. ‘I’ am maintaining ‘myself’ against the facts – no wonder it is a painful endeavour. VINEETO: The ‘doer’ plays an important role when you start doing something so radically different to your nature and conditioning until you get to the point where you can access pure intent – then you can begin to naïvely allow the universe to live your life. KUBA: And yet as I write this now pride still remains, and what I mean by this is this fundamental feeling/belief which states that ‘I’ am somehow required, that ‘I’ know better than the universe, that this moment is incomplete if not for ‘my’ tinkering with it. But really this is like a self-fulfilling prophecy, because it is ‘I’ who is the arbiter of how this moment should apparently happen and then when it does not go according to ‘my’ demands ‘I’ take it as proof that ‘I’ am required. This thing of pride it really does seem to be a key aspect of how ‘I’ maintain ‘myself’,
in fact can any identity exist without pride? It is like Richard wrote that ‘I’ am proud of ‘my’ biggest
achievement which is maintaining ‘myself’ as an identity. VINEETO: Ah, pride, the last bulwark against ‘your’ disappearance! And yet Richard also tells you what happens when pride abdicates –
Now that you discovered that your “caring can be cranked up without it becoming an
emotional involvement” Cheers Vineeto
KUBA: OK yes so that scenario of the last unfree person on earth being unable to self-immolate is just a joke after all The above is fascinating, it is to say that with each individual becoming actually free the “landscape” of common human consciousness is changed again. So the common human consciousness now is not the same as it was when Richard became actually free, and there is no way to tell for sure what the flow-on effect will be each time another person becomes actually free. So essentially it is way more than just a “game of numbers”. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, Just to give you the full information that it’s not only common consciousness – a flesh-and-blood body being conscious – contributing to “the global spread of peace and harmony” but also the web of psychic felicitous and innocuous vibes and currents.
Now these very same psychic currents can have a powerful beneficial effect when they are felicitous and innocuous i.e. happy and harmless feelings –
As you can see, Richard wrote the above on 5 Jan 2010, after the opening of the Direct Route, whereas the quote regarding “the global spread of peace and harmony … is spreading via common consciousness” he wrote on 15 Feb 2012, which was after Vineeto had become the same as Richard, in other words after there were both a male and a female fully free. Cheers Vineeto
VINEETO: Ha, not for nothing did Richard emphasise that “nothing can be swept under the carpet”. It’s great you found out that you are “those jitters and all the rest of it”, expressions of the basic instinctual passion of fear, “encircling all of humankind”. There is no shame in admitting that they are surfacing from time to time in this most daring of enterprises in human consciousness. KUBA: And spending the day today in the bester territory but without this fear of the jitters
anymore, it has been incredible. VINEETO: You said it well – “fear of the jitters” – it is the fear of fear which is the largest aspect of it, and once you allow the feeling itself without feeding it with fear of fear then what remains is mostly small potatoes. Here is something I read today, which you might find relevant explaining that ‘not expressing the feeling’ (or even being unaware of the feeling) nevertheless will involuntarily radiate its accompanying vibes. Of course, felicitous/ innocuous feelings will respectively radiate felicitous/ innocuous vibes and psychic currents.
Cheers Vineeto
CHRONO: Continuing on from my reflection, the initial feeling of this ‘put others before oneself’ type of operating seems to be guilt. I experienced it first as an anxiety and a ‘scan’ of how others view me. I sometimes experience a glimpse of what’s underneath it. This fits in with harmlessness and how I want others to accept me before I will feel good continuously. My experience is that it’s actually very easy to feel good once this is out of the picture. This feeling of guilt and anxiety I experience creates a helplessness (victim). By being this victim, I am wanting the other to antidotally respond with loving or compassionate feelings. With that, I will feel accepted and thus let myself feel good. To contemplate feeling good forever without the permission of ‘others’ feels callous. Another interesting related aspect that I’ve noted is that when you’re in love, you automatically put the other before yourself. It’s the nature of love so now it makes sense why it’s advocated by the enlightened people. VINEETO: Hi Chrono, This is an excellent reporting of the various aspects of ‘me’ standing in the way of feeling good. Yesterday I watched the ‘Virtual Freedom’ video again and Peter reminded me of something I had almost forgotten – how hard it was at first to allow himself to be happy and harmless. What was one of the two main objections that he would have to go against the whole thrust of human ‘wisdom’, that one is not allowed to be happy. I suspect at least part of your “feeling of guilt and anxiety” is arising out of that overall stipulation to not fall ‘out of line’, generated by everyone’s vibes and psychic currents. Hence your reaction so far has been to dutifully feel “guilt and anxiety” and the various consequential feelings, if you aim for “feeling good forever without the permission”. Fortunately, even though it sometimes feels like an unsurmountable barrier, the facts are that 1. you can change yourself unilaterally (and only pay lip service when necessary) – in other words, you neither need permission nor allies in this game how happy and harmless can I feel, and 2. the affective felicitous and innocuous vibes are contagious (just like the malicious and sorrowful vibes are), and they are more contagious the more you confidently allow yourself to be that way. CHRONO: Once I saw that all it was, was guilt, I had an experience and seeing of what’s underneath. Underneath the guilt and resentment is unbridled aggression. I wrote above about how I feel angry at others for not accepting me and in turn to feel good. But this made me more aware of the anger underneath in myself. I usually am considered a ‘chill guy’ but all of that anger and aggression is right there. I started thinking up all of the times that I do feel it and it’s actually quite a bit. It’s all under the guise of “Righteous” anger or indignation. Anger that’s acceptable by society. You can be angry when something unfair happens. One example that people may overlook but surely experience is when you are driving. There are many incidents of road rage that happen, but often people only see those people as out of control and not themselves as well. I also get angry at other drivers (e.g. if someone is going very slow). This is all considered okay because the other driver choosing to go slow or doing whatever is “not okay” (unacceptable). Often driving in traffic, you can see these aspects of yourself. This aggression felt like a huge beast waiting inside a cave. It’s only the fear of the ‘many’ which keeps it in check. Weirdly, when someone does end up acting out their aggression, it’s an unmentioned expectation that they feel guilty about it. So I must be pre-emptively feeling it so that it never happens. But as I looked around, this same beast was in everyone. It was no different. This burden was being carried by everyone. VINEETO: Indeed, wanting to be happy when everyone else prefers to follow the dictum to be sad or bad is not the only reason for feeling guilty. And as you found out, blaming others for feeling angry or not liked is pointless and only aggravates feeling bad. Everyone is inflicted by the same instinctual passions, hence no need to feel either guilty or resentful. The very fact that you have the sincere intent to do something about your aggression, and know a way to do that effectively, is already a eminent position to appreciate. Here is how feeling being ‘Vineeto’ described ‘her’ own discoveries –
CHRONO: There were only superficial differences and no one was special. Not even a ‘chill guy’ like me . I feel this aggression more intensely when I think about the ‘unfairness’ in the world. When I watch the news, it does not make sense and I just play out a scenario in my head of how whoever I think is responsible (usually the “upper” class) gets punished severely. It’s truly a never-ending cycle. But now I experienced myself as responsible as well. Seeing all this makes it easier to sift through the facts as that pull towards how I should think or approach life based on if it feels ‘Right’ or ‘Wrong’ has greatly lessened. But even further to that, my intent to feel good come what may now can stand on its own. Because when I saw that others were also keeping at bay this same unbridled aggression, it became more clear that no one actually knows what they are doing. Previously I wrote that others seem to know something that I don’t. Now there’s no reason to go along with that feeling as it seems silly. It’s very fascinating how all of these feelings come together and feed each other. Many of them also seem to be weaker now. Especially the negative ones that I was feeling with my partner where I felt like I had to be anxiously grasping. I’m able to allow her more to be in her own space and I meet her from where I am if that makes any sense. VINEETO: It is really amazing how dealing with one issue, anger, and aiming to be harmless, has such beneficial results on being able to play together rather than the automatic hide, defence and attack-mode. It is quite magically and remarkably enjoyable and buoyant. CHRONO: I’m reflecting on time now as I inevitably always
come back to this and it seems very related to feeling good. The words that ‘this moment is the only moment of
being alive’ seem to really stand out more. There’s an automatic sensuousness and feeling good that accompanies
this seeing. It’s like how could I forget that this is my only moment of being alive?! Sometimes when I see it, it’s
like waking up from a dream from everything prior. Everything prior doesn’t exist. There’s a great significance
to this occurrence. Maybe I can rephrase my question then to ‘how can I fully enjoy and appreciate this moment of
being alive forever?’ . I think ‘oh yes everyone knows this’, but I am seeing more nowadays that everyone
does not see that this is the only moment of being alive. When I tell my partner or friends something like ‘isn’t
it interesting that it’s always this moment?’, they often almost dismiss it and not realize the full import of
it. Just the other day I was noticing this moment more and more and ‘pushed the envelope’ a little further. It’s
so wonderful that this is the only moment of being alive, so precious, that I simply don’t know how to describe it.
I had to take a step back from this further seeing after that because I had tears in my eyes. What would take me to
‘push the envelope’ more? VINEETO: Ha, and once you are back to feeling good and understood more of which dominant feeling was the trigger and how you tick, then there is room for sensuousness and remembering to appreciate this moment of being alive … and to be like that forever no longer seems impossible. What would it take to ‘push the envelope’ more? – more of the same, looking sincerely at the obstacles and then enjoy more and appreciate more being alive, in this only moment you can experience, now. CHRONO: Ah! Something else I was reflecting about and I forgot
to write down. To be happy and harmless seems to be related to caring. This in turn is related to vibes and psychic
currents. Stay tuned! VINEETO: It’s wonderful to hear you say this. This sentence from Richard from many years ago may sound familiar to you –
Cheers Vineeto
CHRONO: So I ended up reading this correspondence [re psychic web VINEETO: Hi Chrono, I am pleased to hear you were able to not only become aware of physic vibes but also to notice how most of the vibes are about “a “battle” or undercurrent in what they are saying versus what they are being”. And, as you say, the same battle is happing inside yourself. Particularly in a partnership it is easy to fall into a pattern of having to be ‘right’ rather than being sensible and interested in harmony and intimacy. CHRONO: At work I was speaking with someone casually (while I was feeling good) and noticed intuitively how I had an automatic “tuning in” to the other person. How I was being pulled to them in a way and I instinctually pulled back. Which instinctive tug-of-war is apparent now in every interaction. Just yesterday I also saw actively while speaking with my partner how it was ‘me’ that was in the way when I was offering my thoughts to her. The moment I dropped below feeling good while speaking with her, I noted what it was. And in every instance it was my expectation or desire of how I wanted her to receive my thoughts. And that seeing was enough for me to get back to feeling good. It didn’t matter how she received it as long as I was really feeling happy and harmless. And it’s strange as I write that as it seems like I’m being accused of being uncaring. But I also note how completely different this is from the application of morality as even an action imbued with love is also an exertion of power. So much interaction is actually a subliminal power battle and it makes me wonder what exactly is the need for it. VINEETO: Well observed. When you say “how I wanted her to receive my thoughts” you would understand that she instinctually wants the same thing – so when you, for instance, stand back a while and allow her to express her thoughts and her feelings, there is a good chance she will want to understand yours. Your fear of “being uncaring” is responsible for needing to convince her that you are not uncaring (via having your thoughts received, rather than acting in a caring way such as listening attentively, for instance). Cheers Vineeto
CHRONO: But to come back to the topic, I do find it interesting that giving and taking offence relates directly to vibes and psychic currents. Now that I am casting more attention on this phenomenon, I am rather astonished at how much of a role it plays in the real world. Maybe respect and disrespect as it is talked about in the real world also relates to giving and taking offence. I liken this part to “keeping your hands in your pockets”:
VINEETO: Yes, it does relate. Both respect and disrespect, fear and authority is overwhelmingly established on the psychic level. As Richard says, that’s where the real power play takes place, especially via the stronger psychic currents which are instantaneously transmitted over long distances. But you can step out of this tug-of-war game altogether and keep your hands in your pocket, while eliminating the reason in you which may cause you to feel insulted. Then you will no longer be a target (most of the time). That is what I mean when I say one becomes more and more anonymous. CHRONO: My question now is, if as a ‘being’, I am always involuntarily transmitting and receiving vibes and psychic currents, how can I as a ‘being’ have this affective and psychic attacking/ defending fall flat? VINEETO: Simply by your intent to be happy and harmless and to keep feeling good. It’s a different value to the ‘battle’ of right and wrong, superior/ inferior others want to draw you into. In other words, you play a different game altogether. CHRONO: My current understanding is that the conceiving of being a sponge is maintaining the intent to be happy and harmless in every situation or circumstance. I would still experience those vibes and have a reaction accordingly, but I would neither repress or express them if they came up. To bring it back to more of an experiential understanding, I wrote earlier that how I was able to choose feeling good. This understanding came when I realized that there are no rules or anyone standing in my way in being happy and harmless and that it is my choice alone. I can feel good come what may and it is ‘me’ that is standing in the way. This section was very elucidating: Thus the identity in situ at the beginning of 1981 went right to the heart of the matter from the get-go. The crux of the issue is that, as each and every identity is a feeling-being at root (i.e., ‘I’ am ‘my’ feelings and ‘my’ feelings are ‘me’), all identities are hereditarily programmed by blind nature to emotionally-passionally react, instantaneously, to affectively-felt and/or psychically-intuited threats to their existence because, at their very core, it is ‘being’ itself at dire risk (i.e., ‘me’ at the core of ‘my’ being is ‘being’ itself). (It is a genetic hangover from long-ago ancestral eras already many millions of years old when sapience emerged around 100+ millennia ago – as a boy, a youth, a young man, hunting game in the wild plus interacting daily with domesticated animals, revealed to me how they relied as much, if not more, on what was known generically as a ‘sixth sense’ as upon an acute sense of smell, alert hearing and keen eyesight in order to evade predation – which has become a liability, for modern-day humankind, rather than the asset it once was). Now, because the pure consciousness experience (PCE) – where ‘me’ at the core of ‘my’ being is in abeyance (unlike an altered state of consciousness (ASC) where ‘me’ at the core of ‘my’ being reigns supreme as ‘Being’ itself) for the duration – experientially demonstrates how each and every identity has no existence whatsoever in actuality then any such offensiveness (previously experienced as affective/ psychic threats to ‘my’ existence/ to ‘my’ very ‘being’) loses its existential sting/ no longer has its dire effect. Indeed, ‘all the rudeness, all the insults, all the slights’, and etcetera, soon become rather exquisite aids in ferreting-out any aspects of ‘me’ which have eluded exposure through hands-on inspection up till then (hence my parenthetical remark about the metaphorical ‘wringing it out’ ploy not being necessary, in practice, and my further above observation regarding the absorbability of offensive language/ offensive gestures being nigh-on infinite in regards quantity).
(Richard, List D, Rick, 21
January 2016).
The part that I bolded sticks out to me the most and has been happening
more and more. VINEETO: You got it in one. It’s your experiential understanding you can “can feel good come what may and it is ‘me’ that is standing in the way”. Brilliant. Cheers Vineeto
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