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nfortunately, your method has not helped
anybody to achieve this lofty goal to extinct the ‘passionate instincts’.
Richard: On the contrary ... the very reason
why this flesh and blood body is actually free from the human condition (sans the entire affective
faculty/identity in toto) is because of the identity in residence all those years ago (1981-1992) utilising
the approach ‘he’ devised – a course of action which has become known as the actualism method – to
full effect.
Incidentally, it was not a [quote] ‘lofty goal’ [endquote] ...
it was a very down-to-earth, sensible, and practical goal.
Not you, of course, the others (your
former wife, Vineeto, Peter, No 66, and others). As long as your method does not get them beyond what Buddha’s
method does, I don’t see your claims justified – that your method does what we don’t have any evidence
that it does what you claim it does.
Not so. The actualism method has already got me far ‘beyond
what Buddha’s method does’, and any other spiritual method for that matter. In a relatively short time
(about 2 years compared to 17 fruitless years on the spiritual path) I gained a virtual freedom from malice
and sorrow, which allows me to feel carefree most of the time and to be considerate of others at all times.
This virtual freedom from malice and sorrow is not only a delicious
way of experiencing life whilst still remaining a feeling being, it would also mean, with an eventual global
spread of happy and harmless people, an end to human conflicts and an end to what can only be described as the
human malaise. I am under no illusion that this will happen in my lifetime but I am well pleased that I made
the effort.
After all pragmatic claims require pragmatic proofs.
[quoting himself]: ‘Buddha taught a
technique called ‘mindfulness’ (and most likely the technique was very different 2500 years ago than
today) which had as an aim to stop instinctive and affective behaviour whether for good or bad.
I don’t see how what you achieved with Richard’s method is ‘far
beyond’ that.
Buddha’s mindfulness is based on dis-association and dissociation
in order to nurture the transcendent ‘Self’ or ‘Being’ whereas the actualism method diminishes both
good and bad feelings and fosters the felicitous feelings thereby diminishing both ‘I’ as ego and ‘me’
as ‘Being’. For starters, being blissfully removed from the world via denial, transcendence and
dissociation is a world of difference to happily (and harmlessly) experiencing this moment of being alive in
the world as-it-is with people-as-they-are.
For you to claim that Mr. Buddha taught a technique aimed at
stopping one’s good ‘instinctive and affective behaviour’ as well as one’s bad ‘instinctive
and affective behaviour’ is mind-boggling – you wouldn’t like to reconsider your claim perchance?
You retrained yourself as to reduce the
effects of your feelings, instincts and passions upon your behaviour.
Your reading of the website has been somewhat superficial because
the actualism method is clearly not a re-training ‘to reduce the effects of your feelings’ – the
actualism method results in abandoning one’s beliefs in anything meta-physical, mystical and
spiritual – upon closer inspection they are all recognized as silly for being obstacles to being happy and
harmless.
Haven’t you noticed that a fact that you know as a fact does not
trigger any malicious or sorrowful feelings when questioned whereas each and everyone of one’s beliefs when
questioned by others immediately brings a whole range of defensive, aggressive and doubtful emotions into
play. With no beliefs to defend or uphold the very arising of all those feelings supporting and/or defending
one’s beliefs, be they spiritual, metaphysical, religious, political, cultural, philosophical or whatever,
simply disappears. Eliminating one of the major causes of feelings such as righteousness and/or indignation
means that one is more able to be happy and harmless. In other words – no cause, no effect.
For example, in the past you might have
gone mad screamed if somebody had spoken to you in derogative language. Nowadays you might not even ‘feel’
the insult, or if you still feel the insult you feel it much less than before, which enables you NOT to act
based on the feelings of insult.
Yes, following Buddha’s method I would have merely retained
myself not to feel insulted by staying cool, remaining aloof and acting superior.
Whereas with the actualism method, when and as a feeling arises, I
neither repress nor express the feeling but apply attentiveness to the fact that I am feeling melancholic,
annoyed, bored, frustrated and so on with the aim to get back to being happy and harmless as soon as possible.
Being attentive in that way I find the trigger that set me off feeling that way in the first place, in order
that I can find the root cause of the feeling’s onset and clearly seeing the root cause is also the end of
it.
To give you an example – the other day No 88 wrote that ‘Vineeto, being of German origin, is so responsive to it, makes me suspect otherwise’.
I actually had to ask Peter to explain what George meant by this because when I used actualism to inquire into
all the reasons that caused me to being malicious and sorrowful, insulted and angry, I had to, along all the
other aspects of my social identity, also dismantle my German identity and its associated range of feelings,
beliefs, attitudes and cultural/historical encumbrances.
Think about it – if all the Arabs and Christians, Jews and
Palestinians, Hutus and Tutsis, Chinese and Americans, English and Irish, Greeks and Turks, Prussians and
Russians, Greenies and world-traders, vegetarians and omnivores, hawks
and pacifists, left wingers and right wingers, and so on would stop feeling themselves to be of a
particular creed, of a particular nationality, of a particular tribe, of a particular social, political and/or
philosophical group, then they would have no need whatsoever, no matter what anyone says, to feel insulted on
grounds of their nationality, creed, convictions and beliefs – that would be the end of all the wars and
feuds and conflicts on the planet.
Buddha’s method certainly has not achieved that after a good long
trial of 2500 years.

Actualism, being non-spiritual, non-philosophical and
down-to-earth, is like any other pursuit in life. For example, if your aim is to win the Olympic gold medal in
the 5000m marathon, then you will spend your days training and exercising until you are confident of reaching
your goal – you will stream-line your whole life, putting all other desires aside, to make sure you reach
your goal and you won’t let off until you have perfected your skills. But if you only want to do a little
bit of jogging to see if you like it or not, then you won’t need to practice, you won’t need to change
your life, you won’t need to perfect your running style.
As I have never made anything as my ‘aim in
life’ even in my real world life, I don’t know how to motivate myself enough to make ‘enjoying this
moment’ priority number 1 in my life.
Mr. Buddha’s Four Noble Truths come to mind –
- Life is fundamentally disappointment and suffering;
- suffering is a result of one’s desires for pleasure, power, and continued existence;
- in order to stop disappointment and suffering one must stop desiring; and
- the way to stop desiring and thus suffering is the Noble Eightfold Path – right views, right intention,
right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right awareness, and right concentration.
Is it that you do not have an ‘aim in life’ because you
have learnt to believe that to have a passionate ‘aim in life’ is a desire – a desire that the
mythical Mr. Buddha supposedly said will inevitably bring disappointment and frustration? Such teachings do
indeed inflict a severe lack of motivation to improve anything here on earth.
The other aspect of this spiritual practice that you point to – ‘detaching
myself from my unwanted feelings’ – not only means you are ‘not getting effected’ by
unwanted feelings, it also locks you out from feeling motivated, feeling interested, feeling curious, feeling
inquisitive, feeling enthusiastic, feeling excited and feeling determined. It therefore becomes apparent that
you will have to abandon your current practice of ‘not getting effected by feelings’ in order ‘to
motivate myself enough to make ‘enjoying this moment’ priority number 1 in my life’.

You wrote something to Gary the other day that seems to be a
misinterpretation of what I wrote, so I couldn’t resist ‘butting in’. The misinterpretation is in the
second part of this post but I am making a general comment at the start.
Gary – Within the Human Condition, the best
one can ever do is to keep a check on oneself, lest one run amok due to unrestrained passions and instincts.
However, I think when one is practicing an alert attentiveness that something entirely different than this
monitoring process is occurring. We have spoken before on this list about ‘nipping it in the bud’. I
believe I have heard you use this expression as well. When I have nipped a feeling in the bud, so to speak,
the feeling or emotion does not even get off the runway, to use an aeronautical analogy. If, for instance,
anger arises in regard to some interaction I have had with another person, I can nip this feeling in the bud
by noticing the feelings and thoughts that are arising, but there is no need to monitor by keeping in check or
controlling the particular feeling, as the feeling does not gain momentum and energy. Rather, one’s native
intelligence can go to work investigating this feeling, if investigation is needed. The mere presence of the
feeling means I have something to look into. If anger continues to cruise down the runway, so to speak,
gathering a full head of steam, then I really have my work cut out for me. If not, then voilá! ... there is
nothing further that I need do. Gary to No 38, 21.2.2003
I realize that ‘nipping it in the bud’
could be interpreted as either suppression, or as you say
‘I can nip this feeling in the bud by
noticing the feelings and thoughts that are arising, but there is no need to monitor by keeping in check or
controlling the particular feeling, as the feeling does not gain momentum and energy’. Gary to No 38, 21.2.2003
The latter is what I intended, and your
description jibes with that. As an example, the other day I had an angry moment, and I popped off at someone
in an inappropriate (aka violate common consideration for others) manner. The moment swept me along, so there
was little I could do to ‘nip it in the bud’, but the following feelings of embarrassment and shame I was
able to ‘nip in the bud’. They arose, I recognized them, then got back to being H&H.
In the process of becoming happy and harmless, my main focus was on
becoming harmless, i.e. ceasing being aggressive or angry towards others. In this case investigating my
feelings means that I examine what triggered my eruption of anger, what caused me to up my defences, what is
it that I am being defensive about and what part of my identity felt threatened and therefore caused me to
react aggressively.
Once I am able to isolate the issue in question, then the next step
is to clearly look at all aspects of this particular area of identity, be it an authority issue, a gender
identification, professional pride, a certain belief or worldview or any other cause that made me react in an
aggressive or inconsiderate manner. The difference between maintaining a social or spiritual moral code in
order to keep a lid on outbursts of anger and the process of actualism is that in actualism I am changing my
behaviour by incrementally removing the very triggers for feeling irritated, annoyed, resentful, threatened or
aggressive.
To achieve this, I not only have to ‘recognize’ the
arising feeling as a feeling, but I have to search for and identify the part of my identity associated with
the feeling – ‘me’ as a woman, ‘me’ as a national identity, ‘me’ in my professional or work
role, ‘me’ as a partner or family member, ‘me’ as a social identity with a particular philosophy,
culture, religion or worldview, etc, etc. Unless I recognize, examine and finally incapacitate the part of my
identity who feels offended and therefore responds offensively either covertly or overtly, there will
inevitably be a similar harmful response in the next similar situation.
As for ‘feelings of embarrassment and shame’ – those
feelings quickly became redundant as I incrementally succeeded in ridding myself of malice and sorrow. As an
actualist, I set my sights higher than merely keeping the lid on my instinctual aggression by living by the
rights and wrongs of some moral or ethical code. Actualism is about becoming free of malice and sorrow via a
process aimed at ‘self-immolation – it is not about controlling one’s malice and sorrow via a process
aimed at ‘self’-perpetuation.
The process you seem to be describing as ‘they arose, I
recognized them, then got back to being H&H’ has a striking resemblance to the method of Vipassana.
This Buddhist ‘watching practice’ is based on the understanding that ‘who’ you really are is your ‘consciousness’,
ie. a disembodied, desensitized ‘watcher’, dissociated from unwanted emotions and thoughts
In Vipassana, ‘watched’ anger eventually passes away, not
because you understand its underlying reason and origin but because you become the watcher and distance
yourself from your anger and merely watch it run its course. In the same way you can distance yourself from
any feeling or emotion without ever having to investigate the substance of your ‘self’ – it’s
instinctual core. To really face the fact that anger is ‘you’ in action, and that ‘you’ are the only
cause and reason of anger arising, is the first and essential step to doing something practical about bringing
an end to this emotion instead of merely witnessing it and waiting for it to pass away.
Actualism is not a method of passively monitoring, watching or
observing one’s feelings – actualism is a method of actively investigating the origin of those feelings
and thus rocking the very core of one’s identity.
So, ‘nip it in the bud’ doesn’t imply
suppression, just an acquired skill in processing the emotions as they arise. As Vineeto discussed in another
thread, it’s not necessary, or even useful to pump this through the grist mill every time, just recognize it
as another manifestation of a fairly well understood response. Of course, there needs to be a check on this
process to ensure that this categorization is not self-deception, a red herring.
I take it that the thread you are referring to is from my recent
post to Gary –
To Gary: Recently Peter and I were talking about this very
quality of virtual freedom – after sufficient explorations into the human condition I am now able to ‘nip
these reactions in the bud’ shortly after they appear and many events that usually would have triggered
an angry or sad response in the past now fail to do so.
At my stage of the process the job now is to remember to stop the
once essential but now redundant habit of rummaging around in my psyche in order to regurgitate issues that I
have already explored, resolved and understood so as to get on with being happy and harmless as soon and as
uninterruptedly as possible. Strangely enough that leaves ‘me’ increasingly with nothing to do, which in
itself sometimes stirs the uncomfortable feeling of being redundant – a sure sign that my efforts of
actively diminishing ‘me’ have had tangible effect. Vineeto to Gary, 12.2.2003
When I said ‘after sufficient exploration into the human
condition’ I was referring to several years of actively dismantling and intensely exploring all aspects of
my identity – an identity that was clearly seen and recognized in numerous ‘self’-less pure
consciousness experiences as being an all-pervading yet non-actual ‘presence’. Such pure consciousness
experiences are vital to the intent to investigate one’s identity because only in a PCE can I see, by the
very comparison of ‘my’ absence, what havoc ‘I’ am continuously causing by ‘my’ very presence and
what confusion, diversion and cunning ploys ‘I’ am inventing in order to stay in existence. The comparison
of a PCE to ‘my’ normal life as an identity within the human condition also gives me the confidence that
when I am ‘nipping feelings in the bud’ I am not repressing, ignoring or side-lining a ‘precious’ part
of my identity.
I remember you said that you no longer subscribe to spiritual
practices but given that spiritual values and practices pervade human society like odourless vapour, an
investigation of potential hangovers might still be of use. In case you are interested, some years ago there
were several discussions on the AF mailing list about the topic of Vipassana in distinction to actualism –
Vineeto to No 4, 05.4.1999 and 16.4.1999, and No 7, 24.4.1999, 2nd question, Richard to No 4, 10.9.1999 and No 7, 23.8.1999

And now to your second question. You wrote:
Richard: ‘In that brief scintillating
instant, that twinkling sensorium-moment of consciousness being conscious of being consciousness, one
apperceives a thing as a nothing-in-particular that is being naught but what-it-is coming from nowhen and
going nowhere at all. One experiences a smoothly flowing moment of clear experiencing where one is interlocked
with the rest of actuality, not separate from it...’ <snip> ‘...of consciousness being conscious of
being consciousness.’ Richard’s Journal, Appendix 5
Is being conscious of being consciousness
also not a goal of Vipassana? I read your post to No 4 and I noticed that this issue is not clear to me.
Vipassana has to be seen within the whole context of Buddhism to
understand its intentions and implications. Vipassana is the particular method to reach to the Buddhist’s
highest goal – Nirvana. The idea in Vipassana is to become conscious of the sensations in the body, of the
‘stress’ of the sensations, feelings, desires, attachments etc. in order to extract one’s self from
those stressful feelings. You are supposed to learn consciousness in order to become the Consciousness, thus
removing your ‘self’ from the content of what you sense, feel and think. Have a careful read through the
following discourses on ‘feelings’ and ‘mind’ by the Buddhist pundit Majjhima
Nikaya 10; Satipatthana Sutta; Frames of Reference and you might understand their emphasis. You
will also note that Buddhists don’t make a distinction between sensations and feelings.
Feelings
‘There is the case where a monk, when feeling a painful feeling, discerns that he is feeling a painful
feeling. When feeling a pleasant feeling, he discerns that he is feeling a pleasant feeling. When feeling a
neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling, he discerns that he is feeling a neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling.
When feeling a painful feeling of the flesh, he discerns that he is feeling a painful feeling of the flesh.
When feeling a painful feeling not of the flesh, he discerns that he is feeling a painful feeling not of the
flesh. When feeling a pleasant feeling of the flesh, he discerns that he is feeling a pleasant feeling of the
flesh. When feeling a pleasant feeling not of the flesh, he discerns that he is feeling a pleasant feeling not
of the flesh. When feeling a neither- painful-nor-pleasant feeling of the flesh, he discerns that he is
feeling a neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling of the flesh. When feeling a neither-painful-nor-pleasant
feeling not of the flesh, he discerns that he is feeling a neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling not of the
flesh. In this way he remains focused internally on feelings in & of themselves, or externally on feelings
in & of themselves, or both internally & externally on feelings in & of themselves. Or he remains
focused on the phenomenon of origination with regard to feelings, on the phenomenon of passing away with
regard to feelings, or on the phenomenon of origination & passing away with regard to feelings. Or his
mindfulness that ‘There are feelings’ is maintained to the extent of knowledge & remembrance. And he
remains independent, unsustained by (not clinging to) anything in the world. This is how a monk remains
focused on feelings in & of themselves.
Mind
‘There is the case where a monk, when the mind has passion, discerns that the mind has passion. When the
mind is without passion, he discerns that the mind is without passion. When the mind has aversion, he discerns
that the mind has aversion. When the mind is without aversion, he discerns that the mind is without aversion.
When the mind has delusion, he discerns that the mind has delusion. When the mind is without delusion, he
discerns that the mind is without delusion. When the mind is restricted, he discerns that the mind is
restricted. When the mind is scattered, he discerns that the mind is scattered. When the mind is enlarged, he
discerns that the mind is enlarged. When the mind is not enlarged, he discerns that the mind is not enlarged.
When the mind is surpassed, he discerns that the mind is surpassed. When the mind is unsurpassed, he discerns
that the mind is unsurpassed. When the mind is concentrated, he discerns that the mind is concentrated. When
the mind is not concentrated, he discerns that the mind is not concentrated. When the mind is released, he
discerns that the mind is released. When the mind is not released, he discerns that the mind is not released.
In this way he remains focused internally on the mind in & of itself, or externally on the mind in &
of itself, or both internally & externally on the mind in & of itself. Or he remains focused on the
phenomenon of origination with regard to the mind, on the phenomenon of passing away with regard to the mind,
or on the phenomenon of origination & passing away with regard to the mind. Or his mindfulness that ‘There
is a mind’ is maintained to the extent of knowledge & remembrance. And he remains independent,
unsustained by (not clinging to) anything in the world. This is how a monk remains focused on the mind in
& of itself. http://world.std.com/~metta/canon/majjhima/mn10.html
(Note: This sutta offers comprehensive practical instructions on the practice of mindfulness meditation).
Essentially, they say, that you are not the body, not the mind, not
the sensations, not the feelings. They say you are the ‘soul’, you are Consciousness. This is 180 degrees
opposite to Actual Freedom. In Actual Freedom you are the flesh and blood sensate and reflective body only, no
ego, no soul.
But, if you get lost with their many words of going round and round
and round then you know that the method is just to hypnotize oneself out of one’s normal way of thinking and
feeling to end up in a pleasant drug-like state of no-mind, somewhere else, numbing one’s intelligence as
well as one’s feelings and sensations. Spiritual practice is to numb your feelings and emotions while for
actual freedom you need to dig into them, feel them, explore them, investigate them and trace them back to the
root instincts of fear, aggression, nurture and desire.
In the above article the expression of ‘not clinging to
anything in the world’ is the give-away. The whole meditation consists of turning away from something
considered ‘unwanted’ to something considered ‘wanted’ – which is a moral evaluation of good and
bad. The whole Buddhist religion is a very moral code of ethics.
Here is a bit more of Mr. Buddha’s teachings of how to get out of
their physical senses and retreat into an imagined reality or fabricated peace and tranquility. Of course,
practicing Vipassana is like being drugged by an overdose of pain killers – when you don’t feel anything,
see anything, hear anything, it is kind of peaceful – I would rather call it numb and dull! And then,
removed from the world of physical senses there are no limitations to the full range of imagination – one
imagines being peace, light, love, compassion – take anything from the ‘feeling-shop’ whatever you want,
nothing is actual anyway.
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[b] ‘And what is the noble truth of the
origination of stress? The craving that makes for further becoming – accompanied by passion & delight,
relishing now here & now there – i.e., craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for
non-becoming. And where does this craving, when arising, arise? And where, when dwelling, does it dwell?
Whatever is endearing & alluring in terms of the world: that is where this craving, when arising, arises.
That is where, when dwelling, it dwells. And what is endearing & alluring in terms of the world? The eye
is endearing & alluring in terms of the world. That is where this craving, when arising, arises. That is
where, when dwelling, it dwells. The ear ... The nose ... The tongue ... The body ... The intellect ... Forms
... Sounds ... Smells ... Tastes ... Tactile sensations ... Ideas ... Eye-consciousness ... Ear-consciousness
... Nose-consciousness ... Tongue-consciousness ... Body-consciousness ... Intellect-consciousness ...
Eye-contact ... Ear-contact ... Nose-contact ... Tongue-contact ... Body-contact ... Intellect-contact ...
Feeling born of eye-contact ... Feeling born of ear-contact ... Feeling born of nose-contact ... Feeling born
of tongue-contact ... Feeling born of body-contact ... Feeling born of intellect-contact ... Perception of
forms ... Perception of sounds ... Perception of smells ... Perception of tastes ... Perception of tactile
sensations ... Perception of ideas ... Intention for forms ... Intention for sounds ... Intention for smells
... Intention for tastes ... Intention for tactile sensations ... Intention for ideas ... Craving for forms
... Craving for sounds ... Craving for smells ... Craving for tastes ... Craving for tactile sensations ...
Craving for ideas ... Thought directed at forms ... Thought directed at sounds ... Thought directed at smells
... Thought directed at tastes ... Thought directed at tactile sensations ... Thought directed at ideas ...
Evaluation of forms ... Evaluation of sounds ... Evaluation of smells ... Evaluation of tastes ... Evaluation
of tactile sensations ... Evaluation of ideas is endearing & alluring in terms of the world. That is where
this craving, when arising, arises. That is where, when dwelling, it dwells. This is called the noble truth of
the origination of stress.
[c] ‘And what is the noble truth of the cessation of stress? The
remainderless fading & cessation, renunciation, relinquishment, release, & letting go of that very
craving. And where, when being abandoned, is this craving abandoned? And where, when ceasing, does it cease?
Whatever is endearing & alluring in terms of the world: that is where, when being abandoned, this craving
is abandoned. That is where, when ceasing, it ceases. And what is endearing & alluring in terms of the
world? The eye is endearing & alluring in terms of the world. That is where, when being abandoned, this
craving is abandoned. That is where, when ceasing, it ceases. The ear ... The nose ... The tongue ... The body
... The intellect ... Forms ... Sounds ... Smells ... Tastes ... Tactile sensations ... Ideas ...
Eye-consciousness ... Ear-consciousness ... Nose-consciousness ... Tongue-consciousness ... Body-consciousness
... Intellect-consciousness ... Eye-contact ... Ear-contact ... Nose-contact ... Tongue-contact ...
Body-contact ... Intellect-contact ... Feeling born of eye-contact ... Feeling born of ear-contact ... Feeling
born of nose-contact ... Feeling born of tongue-contact ... Feeling born of body-contact ... Feeling born of
intellect-contact ... Perception of forms ... Perception of sounds ... Perception of smells ... Perception of
tastes ... Perception of tactile sensations ... Perception of ideas ... Intention for forms ... Intention for
sounds ... Intention for smells ... Intention for tastes ... Intention for tactile sensations ... Intention
for ideas ... Craving for forms ... Craving for sounds ... Craving for smells ... Craving for tastes ...
Craving for tactile sensations ... Craving for ideas ... Thought directed at forms ... Thought directed at
sounds ... Thought directed at smells ... Thought directed at tastes ... Thought directed at tactile
sensations ... Thought directed at ideas ... Evaluation of forms ... Evaluation of sounds ... Evaluation of
smells ... Evaluation of tastes ... Evaluation of tactile sensations ... Evaluation of ideas is endearing
& alluring in terms of the world. That is where, when being abandoned, this craving is abandoned. That is
where, when ceasing, it ceases. This is called the noble truth of the cessation of stress. (Digha Nikaya 22; Mahasatipatthana Sutta; The Great Frames of Reference.) http://world.std.com/~metta/canon/digha/dn22.html
Can you see the intense effort that goes into changing one’s
sensitivity, and into fiddling with the perception of the senses. Everything perceived in the physical world
is considered stress and bad, and one has to work hard to dis-associate oneself from it. And yet, they want to
call it ‘choiceless awareness’! Give me a break!

Ah, Buddhism, the most heady of the religions, maybe also the most
removed from everyday life ... and you wonder if they know about pure consciousness experience?
Dear scholars :) I have asked a group the
question what is the Dzogchen definition of mind?
And the following was returned to me. I can’t seem to make any
sense of it. Especially how a human being comprehends a nature of mind (sems-nyid), which exists beyond time
and conditioning. Is this Dzogchen mind the same as the pure conscious experience of Actual Freedom? Anyone’s
help would be greatly appreciated.
For an intelligent, practical, down-to-earth human being to try to
comprehend ‘a nature of mind (sems-nyid), which exists beyond time and conditioning’ is a
contradiction in itself, because such a mind exists only in passionate imagination or in wishful thinking,
particularly in the desire to be immortal. The ‘ground of being’ that the Buddhist glossary in your
quote talks about is merely another name for God, one’s immortal soul, one’s innermost being, etc. As a
mortal flesh-and-blood human being, I die when I die and my intelligence or mind dies with the rest of my
body. The mind, the functioning of the brain in action, is firmly locked in this moment of time – it is only
‘I’, the psychological and psychic entity, who exists out of time and, being fearful of death, believes
the fairy tales of an existence ‘beyond time’.
Therefore ‘Dzogchen mind’ can never be the same as a
pure consciousness experience. A PCE is a sensate-only experience when the ‘self’ is temporarily absent.
For a more
detailed definition you can have a look in the library. It is the ‘self’, this alien entity inside
the flesh-and-blood body, who desperately wants to believe in a life after death, an existence ‘beyond
time’ and an imaginary freedom outside of the ‘limitations’ of the material world.
You quoted –
from ‘Buddhahood Without Meditation’
glossary: sem-nyid: the true nature of mind itself, as
contrasted with the contents of mind as thoughts, perceptions, emotions and so forth ‘In order to be
introduced directly to the interdependence of causes and conditions coming together, consider this: The causal
factor is the ground of being as basic space, subtly lucid and endowed with the capacity for anything whatever
to arise. The conditioning factor is a consciousness that conceives of an ‘I’. From the coming together of
these two, all apparent phenomena manifest, like illusions...’
‘The nature of mind itself, referred to as ‘buddha nature’,
is a uniform pervasiveness unsullied by flaws.’
‘Ah, son of good family, the defining characteristic of ordinary
mind (sem) is the nonrecognition of intrinsic awareness of the ground of being, with discursive thoughts
subject to origination and cessation as the dynamic energy of this nonrecognition. The defining characteristic
of intrinsic awareness (rig-pa) is the ground of being becoming evident, with the supreme true nature
occurring atemporally and pristinely as its dynamic energy.’ ‘TheGolden
Letters’
‘Here the word mind (sems) refers not to
one’s ordinary thought process, which exists in time and is conditioned by antecedent causes, but to the
nature of mind (sems-nyid), which exists beyond time and conditioning. In the Dzogchen Semde texts this nature
of mind is usually called the Bodhicitta (byang-chub kyI sems). The meaning of Bodhicitta in this context,
referring to the Primordial State of the individual, is therefore quite different from that found in the texts
belonging to the Sutra system.’
‘The Priomordial State is given many names in the early Dzogchen
literature:
byang-chub kyI sems – the Enlightened Mind or Bodhcitta sems-nyid
– the nature of mind rdzogs-pa chen-po – the Great Perfection gzhI – the Base ye gzhI – the Primordial
Base gdod-ma’I gzhI – the Primordial Base spyI gzhI – the Universal Base kun-gzhI – the basis of
everything gzhI ji-bzhin-pa – the Base just as it is kun tu bzang-po – the Ultimate Good (Samantabhadra)
kun-byed rgyal-po – the King who creates everything spyI mes chen-p – the great universal Ancestor ye phyi-mo
– the Primordial Grandmother bdag-nyid chen-po – the Total State rang shes rig gI rgyal-po – the King
who is self-knowing Awareness’.
‘Since this nature of mind, or sems-nyid, transcends the thought
process (that is to say, Samsara) from the very beginning, being itself outside the temporal process and the
causal sequence, it is said to be primordially pure (ka-dag). But simultaneously it is mnd, or sems.
Mind has the power or capacity to bring all thoughts and phenomena
into manifestation in consciousness through its latent energy. Forms continuously arise as manifestations of
mind (sems kyI snang-ba), and this is called spontaneous self-perfection (lhun-grub). Here there is no
contradiction with the doctrine of Anatman (bdag-med).’
Reading the last paragraph makes it obvious, that the definition of
‘mind’ in Buddhist understanding is an imaginary energy, another name for God or the ‘ground of being’, established with the phantasmagorical power ‘to bring all thoughts and phenomena into manifestation in consciousness through its latent
energy’. Whereas ‘mind’ in the world of people, things and events where we humans live,
simply means the human brain in operation, and it has an astounding capacity both for sensible thought and for
silly passionate imagination.
However, I don’t intend to comment any further, because I am not
a scholar. What I know about and what I can comment about is why and how I have extracted myself from the
world of ideas, concepts and fervent belief and how to live in the actual world of sensual delight and
sensible thought.
When I read the text I was reminded of my university days when the
communist and socialist students were expounding their very scholarly theories of how society should be run. I
studied the first chapter of Marx’s bible, the Manifesto, and then gave up. Looking for other ways to assess
the validity of the proposed theories, I checked out how the communist students were in their relationships,
how much success they had in their political activities, how their relationship was to the working class that
they allegedly represented. All this gave me a pretty clear picture that what they were proselytizing did not
work, neither in their own lives nor in other people’s lives. Further, the more I learned about the putting
into practice of communist belief in various countries, the more I was convinced that the theory did not work.
The same measure of investigation I applied to feminism, humanistic
therapy, marriage and Christian belief. Strangely enough, with Eastern mysticism, particularly Sannyas, I was
completely blind as far as the practicality of the teachings was concerned – in my own life, the life of the
teacher and in the lives of the people of India, where Eastern mysticism had been on-going for thousands of
years.
What I am saying is that I decided that I did not have to learn or
understand all the theories in order to assess their validity, I did not have to trot my way through the
seemingly endless possible theories, philosophies and concepts that human beings can invent – and Eastern
philosophy and mysticism is particularly designed to be mind-bending and thought-twisting.
Now, it does not make any sense to me why people are often quite
practical in terms of their livelihood, safety, comfort and pleasure, yet when it comes to religious values
and spiritual belief, all those practical and sensible assessments are blatantly abandoned. Why? Why don’t
we demand from our beliefs what we want from our cars – that they should work?
Which leads to the question – what is it that should work in
life? What is it that one wants to achieve? To what goal should the theory lead?

Your description that ‘consciousness itself became conscious’
and ‘‘consciousness’ has taken over completely’ is a common and garden description for the
Eastern mystical altered state of consciousness aka enlightenment. Given your statement that ‘‘I’ and
‘Self’ are very much alive’, your entity is indeed very much alive and kicking, now identifying as ‘me’
being ‘consciousness’, which is exactly what Richard described having lived between 1981 and 1992. A diagram on
the AF website quite accurately illustrates this process of blowing the ‘self’ into huge proportions via
the process of spiritual transformation. You may notice in the illustration that in the state of enlightenment
Evil (the bad emotions) is still present only sublimated beneath the Good (the good emotions) – and plenty
of genuine reports from enlightened people have confirmed this to be factual. Your description that the
undesirable emotions are ‘‘overruled’ and thus dominated’ is quite accurate – they are
definitely not eliminated.
This exhibits a misunderstanding of Buddhism.
Within Buddhism the concept of ‘evil’ does not have meaning as a force in its own. ‘Darkness’ is,
according to Buddha, absence of light. In the same manner: ‘evil’ is ‘absence of knowledge’. You give
a typical western interpretation of Buddhism, and thus miss the very things they actually have discovered.
I have studied and practiced Eastern mysticism for seventeen years
and I know what ‘they actually have discovered’. I have swanned around for three days in an altered
state of consciousness with all the hallmarks of enlightenment and therefore I know by my own experience that
in enlightenment Evil still underpins the Good. Evil is not a concept or the ‘absence of knowledge’, as
Buddhists and Advaita-ists fondly believe, but the animal instinctual passions of fear and aggression that are
only sublimated, not extinguished, in favour of the aggrandized passions of nurture and desire. What you like
to call a ‘typical western interpretation of Buddhism’ is in fact the understanding that one gains
from a pure consciousness experience when both the impassioned morals and ethics of the real world and the
impassioned beliefs of the spiritual world are seen for what they are – illusions and delusions.

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