‘I was thinking about ‘spiritualism versus actualism’. I think the reason why I still can’t differentiate between these two is perhaps a lack of PCE. To me both Satori and PCE look same. I have no experience of either. I practiced Vipassana irregularly and found that it made difference in my ordinary life. It did help to make me reasonably happy. I don’t care about what is the exact philosophy behind it. I don’t think that the spiritual practices are useless’.

What appealed me most about actualism is that I don’t have to believe in it (the same thing I liked about Vipassana).

Richard – you may also want to look at this and explain how you can still assert the 180 degree different-ness of actualism and what you call spirituality. Sure, you don’t have to know everything about all the different sects and such, but you better know enough to be able to assert how what you say and what others say is actually 180 deg. opposite. No God in Vipassana., this becomes clear after practice.

From what I have been taught, the teaching of Vipassana is to go beyond both body AND consciousness, or mind. Are you sure actualism is 180 degrees opposite? Maybe you guys just know Vipassana as taught by quacks.

Sorry I’m not hip to your lingo I was not referring to ‘Psychic Vibes’ or vibes as ‘feelings’, sorry. As you continue to put (unintended) meaning into my words you will continue to misunderstand me, making effective communication impossible. This has happened countless times now.

Some years ago I did a course in a Buddhist Monastery, in Thailand (long story), they practised an older form of Zen. One of the disciplines was to acknowledge the feelings we were having every moment, not to repress, or to express them, or let them go, but just acknowledge them. Do you think this is similar to HAIETMOBA? If not, how is it different? This would be really useful to me. Maybe an example would help... On my way out of Thailand, at the airport, there were a few plain clothes police parading about, these guys had a reputation of planting drugs while searching ones luggage. I found myself feeling paranoid, so I began acknowledging how I was feeling. This began with ‘feeling nervous’ ... ‘feeling fear’, and so it went on until the feeling came up... ‘I am having an adventure’, all the other feelings disappeared and I felt relaxed.