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Richard’s Correspondence
On The Actual Freedom Mailing List
with Correspondent No. 27

September 06 2002
RICHARD: As for seeing that it could be difficult for one in the ‘real’ world to see their life as
pathetic from within: from what I recall the entity inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago could see – albeit
dimly – that ‘his’ existence was indeed pathetic (as in emotional and passional and liable to suffer) and that, therefore,
it was indeed pathetic (as in either miserably inadequate, feeble or useless) ... and my conversations with various peoples these
days show that mostly they too can see it (even if also somewhat dimly to start off with) although there are those who decline to
acknowledge it for whatever reason.
RESPONDENT: I think my confusion of your meaning here was a result of
thinking you meant that the existence of a ‘self’ is ‘pathetic’ as in miserably inadequate, feeble, or useless – as in
(my paraphrase) meaningless and pointless. Now you have clarified in a previous post regarding the ‘meaning of life’ that you
are certainly not saying that a life as a ‘human’ is meaningless or pointless (which by the way I was having a predictably
hard time reconciling with an ability to be ‘reasonably happy’). It is indeed quite easy for me to see that ‘my’ life is
pathetic (as in emotional and passional and liable to suffer) – but it doesn’t seem to follow for me that it is then pointless
or useless. (That sort of interpretation is what would be hard to see by a ‘human’.) Now your reference that you were seeing
this inference only ‘dimly’ means to me that you must mean the conclusion was based on a dim glimpse of actual freedom and
perfection. So you must be saying that ‘my’ existence is pathetic (as in miserably inadequate, feeble, or useless) merely
because it is possible to be rid of the self and in fact ‘I’ am blocking the meaning of life from being apparent. So I take it
that this second sense of pathetic would be virtually interchangeable with ‘superfluous, redundant, or unnecessary, or in the
way’, and so forth. So you could say (spelled out) that ‘I’ am miserably inadequate for total fulfilment and peace-on-earth,
a feeble excuse for perfection, and useless as in superfluous or ‘blocking’ the meaning of life. Is this fairly accurate?
RICHARD: Yes ... it is in regards to issues of an ultimate nature (such as total fulfilment,
peace-on-earth, perfection, meaning of life) where it can be seen – if only dimly to start off with – that even ‘my’ best
endeavours (via personal growth, social change, political reform and so on) are miserably inadequate or feeble or useless.
Seeing that the word ‘useless’ has joined the list of other ‘-less’ words this may be an opportune
moment to re-visit an earlier e-mail:
• [Respondent]: ‘... I don’t take it you think that it is ‘pointless’ for a person who is still ‘human’
to live?
• [Richard]: ‘No, not at all ... but what is indeed pointless is to search for the meaning of life in the ‘real world’.
I could have as easily said that it is useless, worthless, meaningless, or any other word of that ilk, to try
to find the meaning of life in the ‘real world’ ... just as I could have said that it is useless, worthless, meaningless,
pointless, etcetera, to seek to establish peace on earth whilst remaining ‘human’.
In short: no ultimate solution to the human condition can be found in the ‘real world’.
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RICHARD: As for your comment regarding comparison: whenever I discuss these matters with my fellow
human beings there is indeed always a comparison with life in the ‘real’ world as contrasted to life in the actual world ...
it is what I came onto the internet for.
RESPONDENT: Yes, I have no problem with comparison – it would be pointless
not to compare the two. What would be pointless is render those in virtual and actual freedom as the only people on the planet who
have a life worth living. And this is indeed what I was beginning to wonder if you were saying is the case. What is indeed
difficult to swallow is that one’s life is useless – as in pointless or meaningless. It would hardly seem worthwhile to
actualise an actual freedom amongst others whose lives are pointless or meaningless anyway. Writing this out makes this
interpretation look pretty silly, but it also doesn’t seem so far-fetched when one’s life is called ‘pathetic’ or ‘useless’.
RICHARD: As an actual freedom is complete unto itself it would not matter that one was living ‘amongst
others whose lives are pointless or meaningless’ (if that were to be the case which it is not) if only because an actual
intimacy is not dependent upon either reciprocation or cooperation.
There is much that is meaningful or worthwhile in normal human life ... as I have already touched upon in an
earlier e-mail:
• [Respondent]: ‘... what about the meanings that we ‘humans’ experience on a daily basis? Like the
‘point’ of something – for example, the point of going to the grocery store is to get groceries to sustain oneself.
• [Richard]: ‘I can concur with what you say here ... sustaining oneself (and one’s family if there is one) is certainly not
pointless. Furthermore there are many meaningful experiences in everyday life: providing shelter (building, buying or renting a
home); being married (aka being in a relationship); raising a family (preparing children for adult life)
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