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Selected Correspondence Vineeto
Hedonism
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When I came across actualism and decided to investigate my beliefs and
emotions, the superstitions about alleged health deficiencies were the first to go, together with my belief in
vegetarianism and being a health food freak. It was such a delight to hoe into a good piece of steak, fish, chicken or
bacon, to enjoy the superb taste of fresh-brewed coffee without any guilt, to drop all the vitamin supplements that I
had taken out of faith and fear, and to simply consider myself healthy unless there were demonstrable symptoms that
indicated otherwise.
How refreshing to read this! After a recent somewhat
heated exchange with another individual over the supposed benefits and morality of vegetarianism, it is a delight to
hear you extol the pleasures of a good steak. It is refreshing to find out that you actualism people are not
promulgating dietary and moral codes of behaviour and clobbering those who do not adhere to their way of life. However,
at first glimpse it appears a bit hedonistic. I seem to recall in another writing elsewhere a treatment of the
differences between a hedonistic life-style and Actual Freedom. I believe this was in Richard’s explication of
sensuousness. I shall have to read it again to see if I can find this point, as it is not quite clear in my mind.
Ah, Hedonism. The very term seems to point to immorality and shallowness.
Here is what Mr. Oxford and the AF glossary say –
The doctrine or theory of ethics in which pleasure is
regarded as the chief good or the proper aim. Freq. now also, devotion to or pursuit of pleasure. Oxford Dictionary
Malice and sorrow are so endemic and intrinsic to the
Human Condition that Hedonism has a very bad press. Anyone seen to be too happy, or indulging in pleasure is quickly
bought back into the fold with comments like – ‘It won’t last’, ‘you’re just avoiding’ or ‘you’re just
repressing’. Another line used is that ‘you don’t care for others’ as the sacred covenant of human compassion
– an agreement to common suffering – is seen to be broken. For an actualist the breaking of this covenant, together
with freeing oneself from a blighted Humanity, is an essential step to becoming free of malice and sorrow. To run the
gauntlet of scorn is the lot of the pioneer and the scorn heaped on Hedonism is of the ‘sour grapes’ variety.
AF Glossary
Becoming free from the Human Condition of malice and sorrow means to pursue
becoming happy and harmless. Whereas traditional Hedonism like the Charvakas have tried to suffocate or at least balance
human sorrow by indulging in pleasures and avoiding pain, actualism aims to eliminate the root cause of malice and
sorrow, one’s very ‘self’ – the animal instinctual passions with one’s overlaying social identity of beliefs,
morals and ethics.
The Carvakas sought to establish their materialism on
an epistemological basis and in their ethics they upheld a hedonistic theory according to which enjoyment of the maximum
amount of sensual pleasure here in this life and avoidance of pain that is likely to accompany such enjoyment are the
only two goals that humans ought to pursue. There is no evidence that they addressed the issue of consciousness per se
... that is: what to do about the persistence of ‘self’. Richard, List AF, No 4
Curiously enough, Richard, being actually free of malice and sorrow, has been
certified for the psychiatric disorder of Anhedonia, the inability to feel pleasure.

Will this ‘I’-less state result in being slow,
lethargic or will our natural body system of being active – passive self-regulate into a balanced state? There will be
no more ‘I’ to psychologically motivate us and to influence the body to ‘get up and do something’ rather then,
for example, to sit and enjoy a sunset. Or is being slow and lethargic an emotional state that will be weeded out by
then?
If in asking the question of ‘How am I experiencing this moment of being
alive?’ I get the answer ‘lethargic’, I know that there is a feeling to be looked at and investigated. In
my experience, lethargy was a reluctance to investigate a scary issue, to question a deep-seated dearly held belief, to
sort out peer-group pressure and explore what I had deemed to be the truth for many years. Lethargy, for me, is the same
feeling that Alan calls ‘stuckness’, a seemingly non-feeling dull state where feelings are kept under the carpet
because they are too scary to acknowledge and explore. Lethargy is simply another word for not wanting to be here, for
whatever reason.
What got me out of lethargy or stuckness or denial or melancholy was always
the sensible thought that it is my time and my life that I am wasting and that the issue will not go away by itself –
nothing will change unless I change.
Enjoying being lazy is something different altogether. Doing nothing really
well is an art that needs to be learned like every other ingredient of being happy and harmless. Doing nothing when
there is nothing to do instead of running around frantically because ‘I’ need to add ‘meaning’ to life was an
issue that I had to investigate over many months. For me, being capable of doing nothing involved exploring the fear and
guilt of being useless, the need to belong to the group that was ‘doing something useful in life’ and the need of
‘me’, the identity, to assure my importance to others and to ‘myself’ with something that ‘I’ had produced.
Additionally, there was the fear of boredom, the fear of being ostracized, the fear of loneliness, the fear of
depression when there won’t be another meaningful task to get me out of bed the next day. All these fears were very
real when experienced but none of them had actual validity for my physical survival.
The only thing I need to do is earn a living, pay the rent, fill the fridge
and obey the laws of the land – the rest is a free choice of what pleasure to do next... There simply are no other
rules as to what one has to do in life. And once I eliminated the need for, and the bondage of, the societal and
religious morals and ethics, I am free to choose the best – which is to devote my life to becoming free from the Human
Condition.
When I can enjoy doing nothing really well, I can also distinguish the
difference between lethargy and laziness, guilt and hedonism, the feeling that I ‘should’ do something and the
pleasure of getting my teeth stuck into an engaging project or issue. Investigating the Human Condition always boils
down to ‘what feeling is preventing me now from being happy and harmless?’ – and then doing whatever is needed to
change to becoming more happy and more harmless, until all of ‘me’ is eliminated in the final ‘pop’.

Do you indeed consider it fulfilling to live a
hedonistic life only – I have nothing against enjoying all delicious aspects of life to the full – but if the
emphasis is on sensual and sexual delights alone.
No, it is not fulfilling enough to live a hedonistic life without the intent
to become completely free. At some point of the perfect life of virtual freedom it becomes unfulfilling because one
knows it is only half way. That was when I turned my back on Virtual Freedom and decided it was time to go all the way.
With having experienced what was possible it was simply inconceivable not to want it all, 24 hours a day, every day.

An AUTHORITY is somebody who is considered to be
very special in the eyes of persons around him because of certain personal characteristics, ie. characteristics that
make him act with total confidence in the social domain in the sense that the uncertainties that others have he does not
seem to have. These personal characteristics go by many names, for example, ‘enlightenment’ ‘charisma’, but also
this ‘apperception’ Richard talks about. An authority always bases his ‘proofs’ on an essentially
‘hedonistic’ base. Since a hedonistic proof of every position can be given, including that of drugs that are clearly
detrimental to health, it is a false proof. Therefore hedonistic argumentation are the hallmark of an authority, and
should be distrusted. In fact, if the only argumentation for the defence of a certain position is hedonistic, this alone
constitutes a ground for rejection. Not that feeling good is wrong, but there HAVE to be other defences for a certain
vision. As you can see in my mail I have NONE in actualism that could stand its ground without hedonism. If there was
even ONE such ground, I would take it seriously.
Goodness Konrad, your fantasy has had a ride with you. Where do you get the
idea that Richard takes a hedonistic base as a proof for actualism? See, that is what I mean by the joke with the foot
nailed to the ground. First you take a premise that is wrong, and then you go round and round in circles, proving your
own false premise as false. Unless you question your premises, you will never be able to see beyond your thus limited
horizon.
I do not say that you have to renounce everything
Richard says, only that you think about the Hedonistic perspective. I have conclusively demonstrated how Richard
rebaptises the word Hedonism, and therefore thinks to have shown that his vision is not hedonistic. But every
philosopher, looking at how he defends his vision will disagree, because his uses of the term hedonism shows clearly
that he goes against its meaning.
There is an Arabic saying, that says about the
Hedonistic perspective: ‘If you are good to stones, they will be good for you.’ In other words, from the hedonistic
epistemology EVERYTHING can be vindicated. But this does not mean, that it is good. To give, again, the simple example
of drugs. Drugs will make you feel good. This connection is even causal, because drugs are chemicals, and therefore
belong to the causal domain. If hedonism is the criterion, this makes that this feeling good ‘proves’ that drugs ARE
good for you.
You must be really, really afraid of ‘feeling good’ that you bring up the
argument of drugs in, every time Richard or I use the word ‘happy’. And what drugs are you talking about? That
Hedonism should be a criterion for ‘defending the vision’, as you call it, that is only your idea about actualism.
Again you use your own falsely assumed premise to refute something you have invented yourself.
The phrase I used (as well as Peter and Richard) is to be happy and harmless.
This means, you have to be harmless to be happy and happy to be harmless, one does not go without the other. You simply
keep talking about drugs because you don’t want to consider becoming harmless yourself – it would require some
clean-up work, you know.
The potential of growth is implicitly denied by
every position whereby it is assumed that an end point is possible, and can be reached. This applies to Osho
Rajneesh’s vision, to that of J. Krishnamurti, and it clearly applies also to actualism. Since all of the good of
humanity arises from our potentiality, actualism, by just this position is a form of evil in the same manner as drugs
are a form of evil. Drugs destroy the biological base of the functioning of the brains, no matter how much it makes you
feel good. In the same manner, actuality destroys the psychological base of growth. No matter how much it makes you feel
good, this alone makes it a form of evil.
I wonder really, how you passed your exam as a logic professor. Just in this
single paragraph there are three illogical statements.
- Since all of the good of humanity arises from our potentiality – this is clearly an assumption on your
side, not a fact.
- ...evil in the same manner as drugs are a form of evil – another assumption, because you are talking about
drugs in general. There are medical drugs, hallucinatory drugs, morphine, alcohol, tobacco, tea, coffee and various
other drugs used in different cultures. ‘Evil’ is a moralistic term, its definition as to what is ‘evil’ is
different in every culture.
- Drugs destroy the biological base of the functioning of the brains – another general statement, that has no
scientific proven basis.
- In the same manner, actuality destroys the psychological base of growth. No matter how much it makes you feel
good, this alone makes it a form of evil – so your conclusion, based on three wrong premises has no validity
whatsoever, it only proves your muddled way of thinking mixed with moralistic ideas and emotions.

Richard: The perfection of this moment in eternal time
and this place in infinite space is so pleasurable that people who call me a hedonist are missing the mark... hedonism
is nowhere near as pleasurable as this that is my on-going experiencing. Richard, A Continuing Dialogue with Konrad, Page 5
Peter: Then maybe a cup of freshly ground coffee and
a post-coital cigarette, and wonder what other pleasures are next, and in what order they will come. Hedonism has got
nothing on this. Freedom is this and much more... Peter, General Correspondence, Konrad
Hedonism as an ethical principle is: ‘Pleasure as the
guiding principle with which the distinction between right and wrong, good and evil, and/or better and worse’. In both
the first quote and the second quote Richard demonstrates that he does not understand Hedonism as an ethical principle.
So, you don’t like us to use the word ‘Hedonism’, not even to set it
against freedom. And you say Richard is evil – or not harmless – because he re-defines words, like ‘hedonism’
and ‘apperception’.
The above statement has nothing to do with me liking
or disliking him to use this word. I just pointed out, that if you do not use the word in the meaning it usually has,
then you are not in a position to state that your vision is not hedonistic.
Richard wrote to the Krishnamurti mailing list:
I have been examined by two accredited psychiatrists
and have been officially classified as suffering from a pronounced and severe mental disorder. My symptoms are:
- Depersonalisation.
- Derealisation.
- Alexithymia.
- Anhedonia.
Also, I have the most classic indication of insanity.
That is: everyone else is mad but me. Richard,
List B, No 19, Letter No 12, 1998
As you probably know, Anhedonia means the inability to experience pleasure.
How does that gel with your understanding that Richard’s ‘vision’ is hedonistic. I can only see it as a useless
excuse not to become happy and harmless, to persist in staying the way one is.
The second point is that it is not a vision. Richard is living it, Peter is
living it, I am living it. To be happy and harmless and to abandon and eliminate all beliefs, emotions and
instincts is much, much more than Hedonism – ‘the doctrine that pleasure or happiness is
the highest good’ (Macquarie Dictionary).
It was you who tried to hang the word Hedonism on what Richard or Peter said,
but they both stated that Actual Freedom is far better than Hedonism.

And yet it is not a joke, for this is what I have been
struggling with the last few days – ‘who is it who is knowing?’ – ‘who is it who is puzzling?’
I have always found the question ‘who’ would confuse me, distract me,
re-create psychic dramas and keep imagination and feeling alive. While asking ‘what am I’ always brings me to my
senses because ‘what’ I am can only be experienced by the senses. The actual world can only be experienced by the
senses. Neither belief nor imagination nor feeling can answer ‘what I am’, but they can easily make up a lot of
‘who’s’.
I have found that by living in virtual freedom I have shifted my whole focus
and emphasis from solving emotional problems and debunking beliefs to sensually and sensately enjoying ‘wee-things’
(as Billy Connolly said), the everyday things that life consists of – breakfast, rain, typing, coffee, walking,
shopping, talking, sex, shower, watching TV and going to bed at night-time. And maybe half an hour of the day was spent
pondering about ‘fear, death and deep matters’ of ‘me’. And thus the perspective changes, the focus changes from
the imaginary to the actual, from the dramatic to the ordinary, from serious introspection to delightful hedonism –
gay abandon, as Peter calls it. So it has been literally a turning away from giving importance to the ‘metaphysical’
to focussing on the actuality of life, the universe and what it is to be a human being. And what a delight that is, each
moment again, just to be alive, breathing and listening, tasting and seeing, smelling and touching. And then you get to
do things on top of it – too much.

I know from my own experience. The bliss and compassion of enlightenment –
I was swanning in it for several days and luckily got out again – are but faint emotions compared to the magnificence
and perfection of the actual world.
And then I ask again, are these feelings of
‘magnificence and perfection’ your only evidence? For if it is, then you might have fallen in the trap of Hedonism
as an ethical principle, as I have described above. You have still not shown that you understand the term in the meaning
I have put it forward, and what is the customary use of the term within philosophy.
They are not feelings in the sense of emotions. Magnificence and perfection
is experienced when there are no feelings and emotions. It is then simply obvious and self-evident. Rather than trying
to theoretically dissect what I say you would be better off to experience a peak-experience for yourself. It is like if
you have never seen, touched and tasted water, then how can you join a discussion about water with mere psittacisms?

PS: <snip>And even if reincarnation was truth
then we should be more motivated to be free from malice and sorrow, because somebody with the oblivion might become
cynical and say I don’t care for anyone, I am going to die, so I will enjoy my life by harming another one.
Those who overlook the second half of the phrase ‘happy and harmless’
often confuse actualism with hedonism and thus completely miss the point. You might be advised to check
the topic of hedonism in the AF library – you will find that hedonism is diametrically opposite to an actual freedom
from the human condition.
When you say ‘somebody might become cynical and say … I will enjoy my
life by harming another one’ – haven’t you noticed that people are already cynical and are already harming
each other despite the fact that almost everyone believes in an afterlife in some form or another, be it recycled back
on earth or rejuvenated somewhere else? Facing the fact that physical death means extinction is an essential precursor
to devoting one’s life to becoming happy and harmless – and I do mean essential.
The materialist’s motto is ‘life is a bitch and then you die’ while
spiritual and religious people’s motto is ‘life’s a bitch but if you are a good enough person on earth you will be
rewarded in heaven after death’. I always felt cheated by the Christian proposition that I should suffer life on earth
for seventy-odd years in order to reap some spurious afterlife reward – a proposition solely based on hearsay,
make-believe and nonsensical fairy-tales. When I came across Eastern mysticism and was told that you could experience
paradise on earth by becoming enlightened, I gladly dropped my Christian belief in an after-death-reward in exchange for
the promise of a here-on-earth reward. However, the longer I pursued enlightenment, the more unlikely it became that
this narcissistic pursuit could ever be the solution to all of my problems, let alone to all of the ills of humankind,
because it eventually became apparent that even the Enlightened Ones admitted that one’s real and true liberation will
only be obtained after death in Parinirvana.
When I met Richard and began to practice actualism, my belief in a
controlling, punishing and rewarding God began to crack and finally disappeared and with it the notion of God’s power
to grant ‘me’ an my afterlife, also disappeared. All my worries about my bank account in heaven and all my hopes for
a better life ‘somewhere-else’ became redundant. With no ‘Scottie’ to ‘beam me up’ out of here, I was free
to abandon the waiting game for heaven and life after-death and focus my attention from wanting to be ‘there’ to
being interested in being here, from waiting for ‘then’ to being fascinated with what is happening now.
In short, as long as you are occupied with paying your soul-insurance for a
happy afterlife, you will have neither the motivation nor the necessary intent to do something drastic about your life
here-on-earth as this flesh-and-blood body.

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