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Selected Correspondence Vineeto
Affective Feelings – Emotions
and Passions
Actualism
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What I’m looking at now is should I even talk to
you at all? That doesn’t seem like a good alternative to me because the world is full of people who are not honest
including me sometimes. I know that I can just not read what you write and not talk to you and I can go on feeling good
and everything will be alright. However, this seems like avoidance to me. Every time I have tried discussing anything
with you it has turned into a nightmare with me being made wrong just as you have done this time. Should I just talk to
you and treat it as a joke or should I even talk to you at all? Neither one of those alternatives seem right either.
Just thinking about sending this is stirring up my feeler so why should I? I guess because I want to eliminate this
feeler and looking at it seems better than avoiding it. I’ve tried to pinpoint what it is and hate seems as close as I
can get although I’m thinking that there is fear underneath it. What am I afraid of? Authority comes to mind. You
obviously wield authority here and you obviously have Richard and Peter on your side so what kind of fair shake can I
get going up against the Actual Freedom Trust?
Also, you assume a teacher role and you aren’t even honest and don’t know
what you are talking about so we can’t just talk as equals because you pretend that you are above me and know more
than me when deep down I really think that you are no more than a lying idiot.
I must admit I was flabbergasted as to why you would inform me about of the
above as these are your feelings and only you can deal with them. The only tentative sense I could make of it is that,
given that this is the actual freedom mailing list set up to talk about how to become free from the human condition, you
may want some help as to what to do with these feelings that seem to occur in regular intervals.
If you could put aside your notion that I am ‘no more than a lying idiot’
for a few minutes then I can tell you what I did – and what worked for me.
At the start of actualism I had to get off my spiritually-fed moral high
horse and stop pointing the finger(s) at everyone else and blaming everyone else for my feelings in order to
single-pointedly focus my attention on the human condition *in me*. I had to rethink my notions of ‘right’
and ‘good’ and ‘fair’ because life if neither right nor good nor fair and ‘right’ and ‘good’ and ‘fair’
are simply human-made morals and ethics varying according to culture, religion, and oscillating according to fashion and
circumstances. I also had to rigorously question what I considered to be ‘true’ and ‘correct’ because my ‘truths’
were almost all based on borrowed knowledge and the rest was based on instinctive intuition and affective memories.
I had to acknowledge that my anger was my anger, no matter who or what had
caused it, that my sadness was my sadness no matter which sympathy or compassion for whom might have caused it or
who/what had disappointed my expectations, that my desire was my desire no matter what situation or person had caused it
to arise, that my fear was my fear regardless of who or what had triggered it. Needless to say that this focussing on
‘me’ also helped me to be rid of any feelings regarding authority as the insights gained from my PCEs allowed me to
stand on my own two feet for the first time in my life so much so that I could easily learn from those I wanted to learn
from and reject revered knowledge from others without being bothered by feelings of inferiority or pride – after all
feelings regarding authority are all but an ego-soul struggle for power and struggling for power is irrelevant when
freedom from my own ‘self’ is at stake.
PS: What you call ‘you obviously wield authority here’ is simply
me reporting what I found to be the case from my experience and what you call ‘you obviously have Richard and Peter
on your side’ is simply that their experiences of actuality and facts matches mine (mostly). Life is very, very
simple when it is not stuffed up by one’s feelings.

I might still not be at ease regarding the everyday
mundane repetitive tasks and once I start enjoying even those, I would think that I have changed for good.
Part of being able to enjoy ‘everyday mundane repetitive tasks’
for me was to have a close look at what was really necessary. For instance I decided to reduce my overheads in order to
be able to sell less of my time for money. Having adjusted the balance of my time as compared to ‘their’ time it was
then much easier to enjoy the time I had to sell for money and the fact that when I do my work well this in itself is a
satisfying activity helped in enjoying the process of it.
The other thing with ‘everyday mundane repetitive tasks’ was that
I had to look at some underlying resentments – as if someone else was making me do those task and not that I had in
fact chosen the situation where those tasks were a necessary part of my life. For instance, what’s the point of
objecting to having to wash the dishes when I clearly made the choice that I prefer to eat from clean dishes rather than
have last night’s dinner still on them? Once I am aware, and am able to determine, that all I do is in fact my own
choice, if possible my deliberate choice, then any resentment goes out the window. And without resentment any task can
be a joy, a sensate pleasure or a mental challenge to do, if only I apply enough attentiveness to all that is involved
in accomplishing it.
I clearly see the sense behind your approach… but
I still have the ‘resentment’. The feeling inside me refuses to go away… the silliness expresses itself as
postponement and switching to more enjoyable tasks. Most of it is gone but still something is left. I have some task to
do which is not all that bad but still I seem to prefer reading a book and reflecting about things rather than doing the
task at hand. I am not sure how to get rid of this basic resentment. Any more tips on this aspect would be welcome.
You are aware, are you, that you make a choice, each moment again, to hang
onto the resentment in favour of taking on the challenge of enjoying the task at hand?
Nobody said that becoming actually or virtually free from malice and sorrow
(resentment being a facet of sorrow) was effortless and on the way personal sacrifices have to be made in order to
achieve your goal. Your resentment is one of those sacrifices required.
Courage!

On the same topic you recently wrote to No 60 saying that ‘I hate it
when she does this and the hate is making me sick’–
No 60: Same kind of thing that’s happening
all over the place with Vineeto. Her statement ‘only enlightened beings are without ego’ was clearly and obviously
wrong. You pointed it out. Instead of acknowledging the obvious truth then and there, she’s once again straight onto
the front foot trying to shove a red herring down your throat, telling you what YOU don’t understand, etc, etc, etc.
On and on it goes.
Yes, I agree. This is the part with her where I
start getting sick so I’m trying to look at that and see exactly what it is. I think you nailed it but I don’t know
why that reactivates my feeler. It seems like it has to do with not getting to be right even when I am sure I am right
and prove I am right. But still there is more to it than that. I think it has to do with hate. I hate it when she does
this and the hate is making me sick. 25.8.2006
If it is of assistance to you, here is what I have observed in myself in
regards to facts and feelings –
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When there is no doubt in my mind that what the other is saying about me is
non-factual I usually have no emotional response at all. For instance when you called me religious worshipper, blind,
obsessed and that I am defending my ego, I knew for a fact that this is not the case and consequently there was not even
a hint of an emotion. Just like when someone says 5+5 is 55 or 12 there is no reason for me to get upset about it.
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When there is a possibility that what someone else says about me could have
some facticity to it or could be partially right then often feelings of doubt and uncertainty arise, maybe coupled with
fear and/or defensiveness. Nowadays with the actualism method these situations provide the opportunity for me to look at
what has been said, sort out fact from imagination, my emotions from the other’s emotions and once I am satisfied that
I know the facts, then the emotion subsides.
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There is a third possibility that I remember well from my frequent power
battles with my previous partner about 15 to 20 years ago – certain situations in which I knew damn well that he had
the facts on his side but I would not want to admit it and worse, I could not divert him from the topic, confuse him or
make him feel wrong (which I was usually quite good at). In those situations I sometimes had intense feelings of hate,
not only for reasons of my hurt pride of loosing the battle but particularly because I had sold my integrity in
defending what I knew to be lies merely in order to win the battle. Needless to say that nowadays I know in advance how
silly it would be to put myself into such a situation and therefore I don’t.
I am not saying that anything of the above should apply to you – only you
can know yourself. I just thought I’d share my own experience with facts and associated feelings as you were
contemplating about your own feelings in this situation.

Have you ever felt aggression, hatred, condescension
or any other negative feelings at all when you read correspondences of No 16, No 65, No 58, No 60, No 23, No 71 or
anybody else? None of the above mails triggered any negative feelings at all?
As I am not free from the human condition I do have feelings from time to
time, although ‘aggression, hatred, condescension’ are not amongst them. That said, I do find some posts from
correspondents rather silly when they waste their time concentrating on red herrings or fighting against imaginary
windmills instead of talking about the issues at hand, namely how to become free from the human condition. On many
occasions I understand the reasons for this behaviour as I too had to struggle in the early days with similar resistance
to looking at my own feelings and beliefs rather than blaming others for my feelings and instinctively defending my
beliefs.
If not, do you have a ‘feeling’ when you
read/reply? What is the ‘feeling’?
No, not when I reply. Even when I occasionally have one or the other feeling
when reading a post, I never write, let alone click ‘send’, when I am in any way emotional. Very early on in
actualism I understood that the way to deal with one’s emotions is to neither suppress nor express them and since then
I have always made it a point to keep my hands in my pocket, so to speak, until I have investigated/abandoned any
emotional issues that may have arisen.
Is it that of caring, friendliness?
The reason I reply to correspondence on this mailing list and share my
experience with the actualism process, which often involves correcting misunderstandings and misrepresentations, is that
of fellow-ship regard which is different to the feeling of ‘caring, friendliness’ in that it is actual rather
than affective.

I’m getting more and more in touch with my feelings
– probably for the first time in my life. My first post here was about how for long periods I could not detect any
feelings. The dull listlessness and resentment of being here – still being the predominant ones for me – are
increasingly noticed as feelings.
Dull listlessness and resentfulness are indeed feelings and not very pleasant
ones at that – indeed they can literally ruin your day.
A problem I’m still having is remembering the
triggers of these feelings. They are practically my default state. It’s not as simple as a ‘he said that’ ‘she
did that’. It seems to be thoughts or patterns of thoughts that sustain the resentment. Surely remembering exact
thoughts from hours ago is harder than remembering ‘external’ events?
If, as you say, feeling dull listlessness and resentment is practically your
default state, regardless of whatever current events or current circumstances or personal interactions, then I can only
suggest that you may need to take a good look as to why this is so. In other words, rather than focussing on details at
this stage, maybe a general overall assessment or stocktaking as to whether or not you want to be free of these feelings
and whether or not you are willing to pay the price that this change will involve may well be in order.
I am reminded of what you wrote to Richard recently –
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Why ‘must’ there be more to life than the miserable reality people live
in?
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The universe is not predisposed to good or bad there’s no reason to expect
life to be happy.
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Also, ‘meaning’ is of human invention life and the universe can’t have
a purpose or meaning.
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If misery helped survival, having miserable humans would be blind nature’s
perfection.
With a default attitude towards life and the universe such as this it comes
to no surprise that the feelings of dullness, resentment and listlessness are the predominant ones for you and having
such an attitude demonstrates well why it is necessary to investigate all of one’s beliefs, attitudes, worldviews and
philosophical outlooks towards life if one wants to become happy and harmless.
I imagine the answer is to remember when I last felt
good and trace forward. I continue to find this very difficult. Remembering the last time I felt good in effect means
remembering when the actualism method last worked for me. The loss of felicity at that time was usually very hard to
detect, being a slow change brought on by certain thoughts. Also, the non-felicitous feelings triggered the last time
are different from those that I would currently feel, it has never been the one same bad feeling from the last time I
felt good. Is this to be expected until attentiveness is more regular in one’s life?
Whenever I could not remember which particular incident, event or
circumstance had triggered my last outbreak of feeling bad I would look around inside, as it were, and find the belief/
attitude/ worldview/ outlook that fed and maintained my current feeling-state. Equipped with this information I then did
whatever was needed to feel good again in order to be able to have a closer look at, become more aware of and, if
necessary, understand comprehensively the underlying feeling pattern – the belief system – that had caused me to
feel miserable in the first place.
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To No. 101: ‘When you practice the actualism method, it’s
important to remember to examine the feeling in question only after you managed to get back to feeling good’
Remembering the triggers and examining the feeling are
hard to do while in the grip of the listlessness or resentment. I know of no other way to get back to feeling good
though.
Have you ever watched a child getting upset when their favourite toy is taken
away by another child for instance and then the mother or teacher steps in and diverts their attention by pointing to a
bird flying by or a showing them a fragrant colourful flower or inviting them to join a different game that’s going
on. Young children are usually able to very quickly forget their previous upset and accept the nudge to being happy
again whereas adults often insist on the seriousness/ importance of their own particular problem and/or feeling and
choose to continue to feel bad.
When you set your aim to become happy and harmless you enter into an
agreement with yourself, so to speak, to not let anything stand in the way of getting back to feeling good – in other
words you make a conscious decision to make feeling good about being here, right now, your default feeling state. This
intent in turn helps to re-kindle one’s own long-lost naiveté which then helps you to return to feeling good for no
other reason than that you are alive and conscious in this spectacular abundant universe. As an adult you have the added
bonus of being able to take note of the triggers that had caused you to stop feeling good in order to avoid this
particular pitfall the next time round.

When I was first starting to
practise actualism, I was doing something that sounded a lot like what No 00’s describing. basically, figuring out how
the instincts work. I was taking my emotional state as a black box and watching very carefully which inputs resulted in
what outputs, and further, how some of those outputs had a tendency to make me want certain inputs. I was surprised at
some of the results... it turned out that what I wanted was pretty different from what I thought I wanted. the desires
for being, power, and sex, and continuity of being (different from just the desire for being, somehow... like a restless
drone in the background) lent their influence in so many ways, and apparently, almost always continuously.
I stopped doing it because even though it was fun and there
were a couple big break-throughs, eventually I just hit a lot of dead ends. It took more energy than I had to keep doing
it, so I lost interest and decided to just pay more attention to sensate experiencing and enjoying myself.
I like your description of the black box of undeterminable
feelings. It demonstrates well that when you ‘have’ feelings, as an outsider, so to speak, they remain strange and
mysterious. Once I acknowledged that I am my feelings and my feelings are me, then I found myself right in the midst of
the ‘black box’ and my feelings became more accessible, more observable, less mysterious and volatile.

I could easily see in what way I could replace a feeling compassion for the
suffering all of human kind (which has no tangible effect whatsoever except on me who is feeling it) with an active and
tangible change in the way I treat people in my immediate surrounding.
I always have difficulty with this one.
You are not the first. Here is an example of what someone wrote many years
ago with a remarkably similar agenda to your own –
You might have stumbled upon something richard but
at the rate your going someone else with enough intelligent and love for his fellow human beings to learn how to
communicate is going to get the actualism message across because your failing miserably.
An Observation, Listbot, Mon 12.9.1999
It is simply not possible to preserve the good emotions and discard, or
distance oneself from, the bad emotions – this has been tried for 5000 years of recorded history and peace on earth is
nowhere in sight. If you want to be free from the human condition then the instinctual passions will have to go as a
whole package, nurture included.
Why does actualism/actualists see the good feelings
as ineffective motivators of practical actual caring, i.e. compassion as having [quote] "no tangible effect whatsoever
except on me who is feeling it [unquote] but eagerly acknowledges the bad feelings as motivating all the murder and
mayhem in the world?
In a ‘self’-less pure consciousness experience it is readily observable
that both the loving and desirable feelings as well as the hostile and invidious feelings are but two sides of the same
coin and arise both out of the instinctual animal survival package. Not only are the good feelings ‘ineffective to
eliminate suffering and violence, they actually contribute to it. Emotional caring only cares for those one feels
connected with and will always exclude those who don’t fall into that category. Furthermore, actualism doesn’t state
that ‘all the murder and mayhem’ is only motivated by the bad feelings but that it is caused by the whole of
the instinctual survival package every human is endowed with at birth.
The best practical actually caring thing anyone can do is to become aware of
their own instinctually driven feelings and passions in order to stop imposing them on their fellow human beings.

My experience with becoming gradually free from aspects of my identity is
that as those aspects fall away I gradually forget that they ever existed. As such I not only not miss those aspects
that I left behind but I often wonder what all the fuss is/was about.
That’s a touchstone in seeing whether or not a
particular feeling, belief or habitual response is deleted/ eliminated or merely transcended/ repressed/ denied/
avoided/ covered up. When at this stage is doesn’t even require a ‘nipping in the bud’ as ‘the problem’ is
simply gone, the ‘nipping in the bud’ is a form of attrition ... eventually the beast and its accompanying beauty
die out.
For me, nipping in the bud comes mainly into play when I have already
understood the core of the problem and need to entirely erase a persistent visceral habit. For instance when I applied
myself to investigating the issue of love, I fairly quickly understood the dream that lays behind the pining feeling of
love and awareness revealed the manipulating possessiveness of the feeling of love. However, it took me much longer to
detect these feelings the moment they arose and to disempower the emotional feel-good hooks and tentacles before they
had a chance to really take hold. Such feelings seem to have a life of their own until ongoing attentiveness and a
sustained period of ‘nipping in the bud’ finally cut them dry.
But prior to ‘nipping it in the bud’, I’ve acted
in such a way as to inflame the passion and/or stretch the limits of a particular belief, see if it stands the actuality
check, then I’ve moved on to curiously look at ‘me’ acting... ‘handcuffed’ (my version of the hands in the
pocket), sort of when a Beauty is on the mesmerizing mode or a dragon is showing off its powers to Buggs Bunny while he
says ‘hmm ... that’s really interesting doc, where have you learned that?’
I know well the seductive temptation to dramatize ‘me’ under the guise of
‘self’-exploration (and most Western therapy groups thrive on this tool of ‘self’-enhancement) – that’s why
the pure intent to become free from the human condition in toto is essential. After I decided to give actualism a go I
recognized that this would involve abandoning all that I had tried in the past – I would describe this turn-around as
‘cutting the crap and getting out of misery as fast as possible’.
My experience is that one does not need to exaggerate feelings as
attentiveness itself reveals not only the invidious nature of affective feelings but it also reveals the full range of
affective feelings whether it be from feeling slightly annoyed to being overcome by blind rage, from feeling a mild
ennui to plummeting into gut-wrenching despair, from feeling a little worried to sinking into a full-blown paranoia,
from feeling a little detached to plunging into a dissociative state, and so on. No need for exaggeration as every human
being has the capacity to feel the feel the full gamut of affective feelings.
For me to keep my hands in my pocket while neither repressing, nor expressing
nor acting upon my feelings but allowing myself to feel the feeling in order that I could be attentive to the nature of
the particular feeling whilst it is happening was extremely sensible advice. This allows me to put the feeling in a bind
– it is like holding the feeling under a microscope rather than letting it go unobserved or letting it run rampant as
is normally the case.
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On the way to an actual freedom the apparent ‘price’ I pay is in
fact a gradual unburdening of unnecessary emotional baggage and silly worries – i.e. nothing at all valuable is lost
on the way while a valuable and delicious freedom is gained. It’s a win-win situation.
Yes, I taste this freedom from time to time as I
gradually let go of the various social protective masks and aspects of my identity. I begin to get a taste of the
powerful instinctual passions, especially fear (habitual response to ‘losing’ something) and anger (habitual
response for not ‘getting’ something) and the self-centred perspective they automatically create even when operating
as a background noise.
What I found was that the ‘background noise’ is actually the
engine of ‘me’ running all the time ready to flare up at any given opportunity. Although the opportunities to ‘flare’
become more and more rare, given that I am no longer bait for most of the usual follies and passions, the engine noise
will only stop when ‘I’ am finally extinct.
Sometimes, as a result of my (silly) actions, I get to
a point where I can’t properly sleep at night, fear, worries and anxiety dominate my life. They are very, very real
and make me loath/berate myself and others even when dealing with petty issues, these passions have a tendency for
overreaction, exaggeration, imagination, preoccupation with future events, generating worst-case scenarios. And when
combining with social, ethical and moralistic principles, it’s really a tangled and guilty mess.
Once I got tired of berating myself for feeling worried and being emotional I
decided to focus on eliminating the ‘silly’ actions that produced stress in my life. As an example, I found that
having less material goods and less financial security meant that I needed to work less which then gave me less to be
stressed about, more time for myself and thus more time to sort myself out. I also found that the more I considered the
effect my words and actions would have on others, the less fearful I had to be of people in general to the point where
the fear subsided and I found that I actually like other people as fellow human beings. (See also: richard/audiotapeddialogues/puttingtheotherbeforeoneself.htm)
When I think about the issues involved with common
sense and pay attention to this moment, it becomes clear that these are only fear-induced thoughts and fantasies
disconnected from the very moment I live in and even from the short-term and mid-term probable future.
Something Richard said recently made me prick up my ears. I was telling him
about something that worried me during the previous week and he said ‘it doesn’t make sense, it must be a feeling’.

When an emotion has been fully investigated and there
is nothing new to be learned from it, what can be done about it? I don’t think I really understand the difference
between nipping it in the bud and repressing it. Many emotions recur automatically unless I take action to either
dismiss them or redirect my attention elsewhere. I am not comfortable with this because it seems akin to repression, but
I don’t know any other way to dispense with the feelings. Any tips would be appreciated.
In my experience with the actualism method, I didn’t nip many emotions in
the bud until I was certain that the whole issue that brought on the emotion had been examined and clearly understood.
By neither repressing nor expressing an emotion I have opportunity to ask
some investigative questions, either in the situation, if I am not too upset, or some time afterwards when the worst of
the storm has passed. My questions go something like this – what brought on the emotional reaction, what is the
underlying cause, what is the reoccurring theme, what is the belief behind it, what is it I particularly hold dear that
caused my getting upset, what part of my identity feels insulted, threatened, annoyed, etc., what action do I possibly
need to take in order to prevent a reoccurring of my upset, and finally, what part of ‘me’ do I need to let go of in
order to permanently become free from this particular emotional reaction?
Some emotional reactions I could easily dismiss as being plain silly such as
complaints about the weather, about obstacles in the traffic, about people being late, and so on. These situations
merely needed a change of attitude, some attentiveness to stop the old habit and then the emotion would not occur again
by my sheer determination not to let such trivia bug me. For those issues that needed no further inquiry, nipping any
upcoming emotional reaction in the bud was the perfect and only sensible solution.
Other issues took more inquisitiveness, attentiveness, guts and intent to
look at the uncomfortable dark side of ‘me’ in order to get to the bottom of reoccurring emotional reactions. For
instance, when I first met Peter I had a lot of male-female issues that caused me to get upset which could only be
resolved by me finding out the facts of the matter and then letting go of my various idea, opinions, beliefs and
feelings around being a woman, i.e. my social identity of being a woman.
Another area that needed extensive exploration had to do with my feelings of
love and loyalty for my former spiritual teacher. I began to inch my way into slowly questioning the sensibility of
being loyal in the face of blatant contradictions between his teachings and his behaviour and his promises and the
actual outcome of practicing his teachings, but for a while each time someone else said something against him I flared
up, so much so that for the first 3 months Peter and I agreed to not talk about ‘the war’. It was clear for me that
this could only be a temporary measure and I steadily proceeded with finding out the facts of the matter despite my
reoccurring feelings of fear, doubt, suspicion, defensiveness, treachery and abandonment that this course of action
could sometimes create. Those feelings only permanently disappeared when I managed to irrevocably let go of my identity
of being a follower, a member of the clan, a worshipper and lover of a Godman, a New-Age goody-two-shoes and a spiritual
seeker and believer.
From those two examples you can see that the actualism method is not a
superficial tool to make bad feeling go away – it is, when used correctly, a powerful instrument for radical, i.e.
eradicating, change. It’s my identity I willingly let go of when I apply attentiveness and understanding and as a
consequence the feelings that were produced and maintained by the respective parts of my identity also disappear.
As an analogy, you could say that the good and bad feelings are only the tip
of the iceberg, the tangible aspect of one’s identity. As such, when I pay increasing attention as to how I experience
this moment of being alive, increasing parts of the iceberg, ‘me’, come to the surface – and this is a necessary
process if one is to bring one’s ‘self’ to the light for progressive dissolution.

For me, abandoning my beliefs was the conscious and deliberate determination
to peel away all the conditioning I had taken on board in my life that prevents me from experiencing the magic and
perfection that I had experienced in my first major pure consciousness experience.
In order to peel away the layers of ‘me’, the social and instinctual
identity I had clearly seen as standing in the way of experiencing the magic of this actual physical universe, I found
that it wasn’t enough merely to question my beliefs (or the beliefs of others) for questioning sake, as I had done
before. Also, it wasn’t sufficient to question what I considered to be beliefs, mine or other’s – I had to dig
into what I felt to be unquestionably true and what I was sure to be right in order to determine whether they were fact
and whether they worked in practice.
In other words, I made a deliberate decision to uncover my beliefs in order
to abandon them, beliefs that were disguised as truths, held by me as well as my peer group to be valid and right, good
and fair. What made them appear to be right and true were not only my own passionate feelings but the fact that others
around me also felt them to be true.
Given that beliefs are nothing other than emotion-backed thoughts the task to
uncover my beliefs was fairly easy in principle – whenever I got upset about what someone said I could then reasonably
assume that one of my dearly held beliefs or values was challenged. In practice, however, it was often not so easy
because each belief I uncovered in fact challenged the very person I felt myself to be.
So, the answer to your question ‘what’s left when all beliefs and
ideas including the spiritual is abandoned?’ in my experience was that what is left is the feeler. Consequently I
then began to investigate the feelings that do not necessarily have beliefs attached to them but that nevertheless stand
in the way of me being unconditionally happy and harmless – the necessary prerequisite to becoming free from one’s
‘self’ altogether.
How did you investigate those feelings and link the
identity to them?
How to link the identity to my feelings? That’s easy – the pure
consciousness experience makes it undeniably clear that ‘I’, the social and instinctual identity, am a feeling
identity … therefore any affective feeling is always an articulation of one’s identity in action. Even if one does
not have a clear memory of having had a PCE, the simple act of being attentive experientially reveals that ‘I’ am my
feelings and my feelings are ‘me’.
When I began to pay exclusive attention to this moment of being alive I soon
became aware that my social and instinctual identity thrives on gloomy and antagonistic feelings as well as loving and
compassionate feelings whereas feeling happy and delighted deprives the identity of its nourishment. Hence Richard’s
method to minimize both the good and the bad feelings while activating and enhancing the felicitous feelings made
imminent sense.
This method is not to be confused with the spiritual method of not
identifying or not associating with one’s feelings and thoughts – as in the Buddhist practice of detachment – as
this practice only serves to create a new pseudo identity, an identity who actively dis-identifies from unwanted aspects
of one’s old identity. In actualism I readily acknowledge that ‘I’ in toto am the problem and then proceed to
facilitate ‘my’ demise.
As for ‘how did you investigate those feelings’, i.e. those
feelings that don’t necessarily have beliefs attached to them – I found that there was no need to make a distinction
between feelings with beliefs and feelings without beliefs. Given that my aim is to eliminate ‘me’, the identity, in
toto, any feeling that prevents me from being happy and harmless is acknowledged, felt and labelled as it arises,
neither expressed nor suppressed but attentively observed, in order that I can then either nip it in the bud or, if need
be, explore and understand it fully so as to then be able to abandon it.
Feelings connected with beliefs inevitably surfaced whenever the particular
belief was challenged. The only way to completely disempower the feelings is to abandon the belief – no belief, no
need to feel defensive, feel aggrieved, feel the need to attack and so on. Even when I thought I had eliminated my major
beliefs, such as my religious and spiritual beliefs, I would nevertheless discover yet more beliefs that I had
inadvertently taken on board and these beliefs made themselves apparent by the fact that I got upset or sad or irritated
about what someone said or did.
Undertaking an exploration of one’s own feelings when and as they are
occurring – becoming fascinated with the business of being alive – is the means to developing apperceptive
awareness, a prerequisite to becoming free of the human condition itself.

‘Now it seems important to identify the more subtle feelings, moods and
affections that indicate ‘me’ coming to the foreground. And they are more the ‘good’ feelings and the ‘no-feelings’
– as I called them once – that I need to be aware of.’ http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/actualism/vineeto/list-af/alan-d.htm#23.4.2000
It seems that I rarely get strong obvious feelings such
as anger, most of my time is spent with subtle lacklustre feelings. The actualism method seems to be much harder to get
working during such times. By ‘harder’ I mean I’m left feeling happy and harmless far less often. With the obvious
feelings, it seems like it is so easy: this person did this/that and I reacted like this... But with these subtle dull
feelings, the cause is often a thought or sequence of thoughts, which I think are harder to trace-back in memory,
especially when in the grip of these feelings. The ‘no-feelings’ that Vineeto talks about in that quote seem to be
the predominant ones for me. Do you think it is practically harder to identify, ‘lock-on’ and be attentive to the
neutral feelings? By the way, as I write this I noticed – as you did previously – a hilarious subtle background
feeling/ attitude of ‘tell me how to get this to work because it doesn’t work for me at all ever and never can or
will’. Silly ‘me’. I bet the days of that attitude are numbered.
The word I would use now, in hindsight, for those ‘no-feelings’ of
lack-lustre and listlessness is resentment of being here. Within the human condition there is a basic resentment of not
wanting to be here, wanting to be somewhere else, waiting for something else to happen than what is happening now as a
basic attitude to life which is then reinforced by the various religious and spiritual conditioning that life on earth
is essentially suffering and that the real life will only happen for the spirit after you die.
This resentment to being here, as this body, in the world-as-it-is with
people-as-they-are, was what was responsible for my dull feelings, no-feelings, my listlessness, my boredom, my waiting
for something else to happen, in short, it had permeated almost all experience of life in that it had cast a dulling
shade over everything I experienced.
The way to deal with resentment in the actualism method is the same way you
deal with all other feelings that interfere with you being happy and harmless – when paying attention how you
experience this moment of being alive, you notice it, then label it which helps you realise that it would be silly to
carry on with it when you can instead enjoy being alive. With a steady increase in attentiveness the shift of resenting
being here to appreciating being here becomes progressively easier until you finally kick the insidious habit of
resentment altogether and delight in being alive for the simple reason that you are alive.
Also, the way I used to think about feelings was that
there is a neutral no-feeling state, and good or bad feelings are positively added (as chemicals in the brain) on to
that base-line. This may be why I’m inclined to use negative words like ‘lack-lustre’ or ‘mal-content’. Could
you explain more why my old model was wrong (if that explained it clearly enough)?
As ‘I’ am a feeling ‘being’ I cannot experience life devoid of
feelings (unless in a PCE) – any ‘no-feelings’ are still feelings of dullness, lacklustre-ness, listlessness,
resentment or boredom or are the result of one repressing one’s feelings and as such are not neutral at all.
From the three kinds of feelings – good feelings, bad feelings and
felicitous feelings – the felicitous feelings are in fact the neutral feelings in that they render ‘me’ useless as
my experience of life is already enchanting and delightful while both the good and the bad feelings give ‘me’
credence and sustenance and thus increase the dominance of ‘me’ as a feeler.
As Richard recommends –
I can recommend that one minimises the effect that both
the ‘bad’ and the ‘good’ feelings have on you (the enhancement of the ‘good’ feelings has been tried and
tried again and again and has failed and failed again and again). The affective energy previously channelled into the
vain attempt to combat the ‘bad’ with the ‘good’ is now released to expand the felicitous feelings which, along
with sensuousness (another no-no in spirituality) and naiveté‚ will result in a wide-eyed wonder which may very well
eventuate in apperceptiveness ... given sufficient pure intent to bring about peace-on-earth by allowing the already
always existing perfection to become apparent.
Richard, List AF, No 12b, 27Feb99

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