7.5.2006

To Richard: Are you or are you not the 1^st person ever to be free of the human condition? Are there others? <snipped repetition> Still not blue ... and no cows

Go fishing, No 58. You have run out of something sensible to say a long time ago.

You are implying I once had some sensible to say. Thanks V !

Yes, I thought you did once, shortly after you came to this mailing list –

Throughout my life, cynicism, mistrust (healthy or otherwise) has kept me away from many offerings, systems, groups, etc, for better or worse. It is no doubt the same view at work that I brought to AF. I had come to rely solely upon myself to figure things out. I have come to the conclusion that what you have to offer is worth a look/see. I have nothing to lose. It is a no risk proposition from my vantage point. Change of Heart, 29.10.2003

Unfortunately for you, this ‘Change of Heart’ never had a chance to get off the ground as you soon reverted back to the more familiar attitude of cynicism, slander and defeatism.

Lets just say, I, for a moment there, questioned a way, (what you call cynicism, what I call a healthy questioning of authority or anything), that was natural to me and tried on ‘your’ way because you promised something if I would change. I very quickly found out that the hypocrisy of you, your mate & your leader was no different than that of every other system, philosophy, religion, teaching, teacher, etc. So, rather than saying, ‘I blew it’ ... it is you 3 who blew it and continue to blow it.

Already long before I discovered actualism I had began to grasp the fact that making other people responsible for the way I feel and act is detrimental to my becoming free from society’s restrictions and control. Actualism gave me the full understanding that the only person I can change, and need to change, in order to become free is ‘me’ and combining this understanding with the tool of the actualism method has resulted in life nowadays being delightful and easy and other people’s feelings and fantasies are very rarely able to interfere with the way I experience being alive.

In other words – even if (note ‘if’) Richard, Peter and Vineeto were as hypocritical as you would like to make them out to be, which they are not, you would be ill-advised, misguided, injudicious and imprudent to make this the reason, or rather the excuse, for the way you choose to live your life. Don’t you know that you can always find someone amongst the 6 billion people on the planet who apparently gives you cause and reason for being cynical, slanderous and defeatist, or pissed off, angry, furious and murderous, not to mention sad, sorry, depressed or suicidal?

Even if you believed your own reasoning that actualists were the cause for you discarding the option of rekindling your naiveté, fact is that you are always the one who is making the choice of how to be and what to do with your life, for better or for worse.

29.6.2006

Respondent No 85: Like every person, except for the ones living in virtual or actual freedom, I am emotional when it comes to money. It seems like a good idea to establish an income that comes in with very minimal/no work so that if I become unable to work, I can still pay for what I need. My question is for those in virtual/actual freedom, what is the investment vehicle and strategy that creates this kind of income, that makes the most sense?

Good luck ... and please please please ... do not seek financial advice from this site. Humanity is littered with spiritual seekers seeking financial advise from their spiritual advisors &/or giving the shirts off their backs to their greedy spiritual advisors.

You are lying through your back teeth, No. 58, and you know it. You have been subscribed to this list for years and as such you know very well that actualism is about an actual freedom from the spirit being inside this flesh-and-blood body. By its very nature, an actual freedom is the very opposite of anything spiritual.

Your contributions to this list have been reduced to presenting one fabrication after another about actualists and actualism which you maintain and defend until you have so much egg on your face that even you cannot help but notice it and then you just invent another cock-and-bull story.

And why? To promote your defeatist attitude in a spiteful reprisal of ‘if I don’t manage to be happy then nobody else should be happy either’ as you try to prevent others from discovering for themselves what you personally reject – that one can indeed live happily and in peace with one’s fellow human beings.

2.7.2006

Your contributions to this list have been reduced to presenting one fabrication after another about actualists and actualism which you maintain and defend until you have so much egg on your face that even you cannot help but notice it and then you just invent another cock-and-bull story.

To No. 23: Vineeto has gone full circle & she’s gone nowhere.

Ha, it only looks ‘full circle’ ‘gone nowhere’ to someone who hasn’t yet learnt to count to three.

Let me spell it out for you – one: materialism, two: spiritualism, third alternative: actualism. Repeat – one, two, three – not so difficult after all, isn’t it?

To No. 23: She was bequeathed a divisive, hateful, us against the world, Nazi lineage; she rejected that & went 180 degrees opposite to a love everyone, fuck everyone, the world is one philosophy via Osho and now she is back to a divisive actualists vs everyone else philosophy.

As for your stereotype fantasy of my ‘divisive, hateful, us against the world, Nazi lineage’ let me inform you that my father was a life-long supporter of the communist / socialist party and my mother was born and brought up in an Eastern European country which had been occupied by Germans before and during the Second World War. Besides, all German people of all ages were thoroughly de-Nazified via Allied re-education programmes in the decades after the war, so if you are looking for Nazi-mentality you will find it more frequently outside of Germany.

The hoary objection of ‘a divisive actualists vs everyone else philosophy’ has been raised, answered and refuted many times over, collected on one page for your convenience. And here it is again spelt out concisely and to the point –

To No. 23: 60 years ...

You just proved my point again that you have been reduced to presenting one fabrication after another about actualists and actualism. This one is so far off the mark as to be risible – 60 years ago my parents were both still teenagers and were yet to meet each other.

To No. 23: … and she hasn’t moved a step.

As far as I am concerned, I am very pleased with the progress I made becoming virtually free from malice and sorrow. It is your conviction and your practice not mine that moving a step is impossible –

‘Nothing makes a difference as far as freeing oneself of the self. Can’t be done. ‘Re: Some Thoughts’; 27.12.2004

Footnotes:

1.) ‘... You have no chance of changing yourself. No chance. It is your desire to change that is the problem. And all the Richards of the world only add to this desire. There is no change. There is only what is now and what you would like to be. The two never meet’. Re: Popcorns, 15/01/04

2.)‘So everyone wants to be free of the human condition? What for? You think it will solve all your problems. What’s wrong with the human condition? I say be human. Be fully and completely human. That is all you can do. Everything else is but a pipe dream put in you from self proclaimed free guru, master, gods, and regular humans. Self immolate? I say be your self. Be no one else but your self. That is all you can do. The rest is psycho babble’. Richard And His Actual Freedom – Big Effin Deal!, 20/10/2003

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