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Selected Correspondence Peter
Spiritualism

Cognitive dissonance can apply not just to people
coming to understand a new paradigm, it can also happen to those who at the moment have committed themselves to that
paradigm.
I freely admit that I do have difficulty in understanding why people would
have such difficulty in understanding a new paradigm but then again I do understand from personal experience that it is
difficult, if not impossible, to understand something entirely new whilst still clinging to the past.
It is quite remarkable how you have not understood
the thrust of my message.
Given that your post was entitled ‘the failure of spirituality or
disinclination?’ I understood the thrust of your post was that human beings, as opposed to the spiritual teachings
themselves, were to blame for the failure of spiritualism to bring an end to human malice and human sorrow. As such my
response was to point out that the blame for the failure of spiritualism lies not with the followers but with the
revered spiritual teachings themselves because the teachings are not at all concerned about peace on earth.
I have re-read your response again and the phrase that I picked up on was
your comment that –
‘The tenacity of humans to their way of thinking,
feeling and living is not a small factor to consider when evaluating the success or failure of any technique
envisaged to bring liberation for man’. [endquote]
And my point was that actualism is not any technique nor does it have
anything at all to do with the old paradigm of spiritual liberation.
Having explained why my apparent misunderstanding of the thrust of your
message occurred (that which you call cognitive dissonance) – would you now explain what thrust of your message
actually was?
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Comments from experienced actualists, including
Richard, invited
As it has been said at many places on the AF website that the self will do
anything but agree to being happy and harmless, then the method to be happy and harmless doesn’t even come into the
picture.
This may well be your attitude to actualism but it certainly wasn’t my
attitude.
Who is talking about attitudes here? All I am saying
is that for one to start working towards peace and happiness, one has to, as it were, get off one’s butt and work hard
at it. And since most people are ambivalent about inner work, the success or failure of a method (what one does after
one gets off one’s butt) is immaterial at this stage.
Okay. I thought you were also talking about your own attitude (as in –
settled behaviour, as representing feeling or opinion; (also attitude of mind) settled mode of thinking), which is why I
responded with a personal example – my own attitude with regard to making the decision to dedicate my life to becoming
happy and harmless. Am I to take it that you were only talking about other people’s attitudes and not your own?
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In fact, as I have written many times before, it is not a matter of not
agreeing (or agreeing) to become happy and harmless – au contraire, I found the path to becoming happy and harmless
has a big sign over it saying ‘Warning! Do Not Enter Here!’
Now that is being disingenuous. Despite the
warnings, if you entered, that means the visions of success overshadowed the warnings. What I am saying is that most
people don’t have the gumption to even move into anything other than their conditioned mind-set, be it spiritual
discipline, actualism and so on.
Far from being disingenuous I am talking about my own experience of
actualism. The reason I mentioned feeling that there was a big warning sign was that I knew if I went down that path
would be the end of ‘me’ – the feeling of fear was as if I was literally entering a tunnel from which their would
be no return. At that stage I didn’t have ‘visions of success’ as you put it, rather a feeling of embarking
on a path that led to oblivion. And yet despite the feeling, I did set off on the path and once I did so the fear of
leaving the past behind was replaced with the thrill of discovery.
The interesting thing about the feeling of fear of setting off in a new
direction is that once you do wholeheartedly set off, the feeling of fear evaporates – fear is only a feeling after
all.
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Despite the warning I found that I had no alternative but to go down that
path – after all I had already found that there was no way I could be happy and harmless whilst being a materialist
(it’s a ‘dog eat dog’ world and I didn’t like eating ‘dog’ given that the dogs were my fellow human beings)
…
Okay, people who dedicate themselves to spirituality
in order to find liberation would agree with you that the normal life of materialism is nought but suffering. (Just on a
tangent here) Your teacher and perhaps yourself has no objection in eating his fellow creatures (e.g. cattle, chickens,
et al). Why this selective liking of only your fellow-species? Oh, if you agree that violence is inevitable and one has
to kill to eat anyway (the fond argument of your teacher), then when in crisis, I won’t be in the same room with you
or your teacher because you might decide that at that moment killing your fellow human being is also sensible since you
have to kill to eat anyway.
This is definitely a tangent and a corny one at that.
I presume you understand that when I talk of the dog-eat-dog world of
materialism I mean that the current progenies of hunting and gathering humans still act as they have been genetically
and socially programmed to do – they instinctually compete against other humans beings in a grim and ruthless battle
of survival. The only difference being that what was once a brutal physical battle has now by-and-large become a brutal
psychological and psychic battle (unless law and order breaks down that is and then the gloves are well and truly off
and battle reverts to being a brutal physical battle for survival).
As for my being a non-vegetarian, I see no reason why I should bow to the un-liveable highly
selective ethics based on the beliefs of a particular religious grouping. Given that it is a fact of life that life
feeds of life and given that as an intelligent human animal I am able to make a choice, I choose to devote my time,
energy and passion on becoming free from the animal instinctual passions in order that I could be harmless, i.e. to be
without malice, towards my fellow human beings.
What others choose to focus their time, energy and passion on is their
business entirely.
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… and I found that there was no way that I could be happy and harmless in
the spiritual world (it’s a guru vs. guru world and I didn’t like how the gurus were as men, …
I agree.
I didn’t like how they treated their fellow human beings and I didn’t
like their lifestyle).
Perhaps a different viewpoint might be in order
here: I guess you couldn’t stay away from sex and women, is that it?
No. Your guess is wrong. I’ve written many a time that the reason I sought
out a female companion after coming across actualism was that I wanted to prove that it was possible for me to live with
at least one other person in utter peace and harmony, something I had failed to do previously.
I say that because at the beginning of your
actualist career, you proposed to a woman whom you found physically attractive (you didn’t consider your sexual
instincts to be a hindrance to happiness then, did you?).
Of course not. I started where I started – a normal bloke with a full set
of instinctual passions intact, both the ones I proudly wore on my sleeve as a badge of honour and the ones I repressed
and shamefully hid away from others. The very reason I chose to find a female human companion and not a male human
companion was that I am heterosexual by nature and as such I was attracted to the proposition of being able to get to
the root of my sexual predatory nature such that I could become free of its insidiousness. Besides which I always
thought the Eastern approach of avoiding the temptations of the pleasure of sexual play, not to mention avoiding the
difficulties of living with one other person in peace and harmony, was, to put it bluntly, a wank.
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It is the dis-inclination of humans towards change,
the inertia that is so pervasive, that is the reason that all solutions have failed and will continue to fail, even
actualism.
Am I to take it that you hold to the belief that you can’t change human
nature?
If you choose to read my sentence that way, that is
certainly your choice. However, I clearly mention the word dis-inclination and not im-possibility is the
reason why solutions continue to fail.
Again, I thought you were talking personally rather than generally which is
why I responded with a personal question to you and a personal answer from me. I’ve already said why the traditional
solutions within the human condition fail and will continue to fail to bring an end to human malice and sorrow and I
have already indicated that I chose to try something new. As I understand it, you are proposing that the reasons all the
(traditional) solutions continue to fail is solely because humans are disinclined to change? If so, my response is that
it is the traditional solutions that are wanting, not human beings per se.
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[Am I to take it that you hold to the belief that you can’t change human
nature?] The question I asked myself when I came across actualism was why not? What occurred to me was that if the
answer to that question was no, then that would have mean I held a deeply cynical view about the possibility of there
ever being peace on earth between human beings – and that was a view that I, for one, refused to hold to
Have you been fundamentally able to change your
nature since you started practicing actualism? Has your ego been demolished? Has your being been extirpated?
I have had this question put to me many times over the years and whilst it is
often asked as a way of denigrating my efforts of investigating my feelings, emotions and passions and of abandoning my
beliefs and becoming as happy and harmless as humanly possible, it nevertheless is a fair question given that ‘I’
sill remain in existence. The only reason I can come up with as to why this is so is that becoming virtually free from
malice and sorrow is relatively easy compared to taking the final step into an actual freedom from the human condition
in toto – curiously enough, the same warning sign ‘Do not enter here’ – only this time the warning is purely
instinctual.
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The very reason people are staying away and leaving
in droves from Actual Freedom (that they are unwilling to work hard and dismantle their identities and fond feelings)
could be the reason spirituality has failed to bring peace on earth in the last 3000-5000 years, to wit, disinclination
of normal human beings to enquire into their reactions, to dismantle their beliefs and to be ready to diligently and
individually go beyond the frontiers of humanity.
Why you suggest that any spiritualist should berate themselves for the
failure of spirituality to bring an end to human malice and sorrow is quite frankly beyond me.
Why you berate your fellow actualists for not
practising sincerely enough comes in the same bucket, doesn’t it?
Hmmm. Perhaps you could give me an example of my berating my ‘fellow
actualists’ for not practicing sincerely enough.
I readily admit to not being tolerant of dissociative practices, spiritual or
metaphysical beliefs, philosophical ponderances and the like – I didn’t tolerate them in me which is why I have been
able to come to my senses, so why should I give succour and support to any correspondent who comes to this mailing list
trotting out the same old failed practices and wisdoms, no matter what version they are hawking? I would not be doing
anyone a favour by supporting beliefs that do nothing but continue the mayhem and misery of the human condition on a
mailing list dedicated to discussing the way and means of becoming free of the human condition.
I found that only a scrupulous attention worked for me in order that I could
make sense of the instinctual nature of the human condition and it is this need for scrupulous attention of one’s own
beliefs and one’s own feelings, emotions and passions that I am attempting to pass on to those with an ear to listen.
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The reason spirituality has failed to bring peace on earth is because peace
on earth is simply not part of spiritual belief – …
Have you managed to bring peace on earth, now that
it is simply part of actualist belief?
I would hazard a guess that almost everyone who is subscribed to this mailing
list ‘knows’, as in has experienced, the utter peacefulness and stillness of this verdant planet literally hanging
in the boundless vastness of space, no matter how briefly and no matter whether they can specifically remember having
had the experience. Is not the nascent promise of this experience the inherent attraction to what is on offer on the AF
website? Peace on earth? The peace that many people know is already here … if only …?
The traditional ‘if only’ response is ‘if only everyone else would stop
fighting and feuding’, and yet a little introspection reveals that the ‘if only’ applies only to ‘me’. A
little introspection reveals that ‘if only’ ‘I’ stopped feeling resentful about being here ‘I’ could start
to feel good about being here and eventually even start to appreciate being here and eventually even start to marvel at
the wonder that not only this planet is but at the fact that the universe exists in its peerless infinite and is
happening right now.
‘Peace on earth’ does not mean that actualism proposes that everyone has
to become peaceful, far from it. Peace on earth means being able to experience the peace that is already here when ‘I’
am not here – the peace that everyone has experienced at some stage in their life, no matter how briefly, no matter
whether they have a conscious memory of it or not.
Very often people think that actualism is only about bringing an end to the
suffering that human beings continue to inflict upon themselves and upon each other and yet whilst this appalling
situation would come to an end if everyone on the planet were at least virtually free of malice and sorrow, it is the
end goal of actualism which attracts people to actualism in the first place – the lure of the direct experience of the
already existing peace on earth. Not as a nearly experience, not as an intellectual understanding, not as
occasional experiences, not as temporary experiences but as a permanent 24/7 until physical death experience.
Actualism is not an all or nothing business – by doing all you can to
eliminate your own resentment, antagonism and sadness you are demonstrating by example the utter senselessness of being
an instinctually driven being and by doing so you are concurrently taking the necessary steps towards becoming actually
free of the human condition in toto. A win-win situation, a win for you personally and a win for your fellow human
beings.
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[The reason spirituality has failed to bring peace on earth is because peace
on earth is simply not part of spiritual belief –] spiritual belief has it that peace is only possible after physical
death in some imaginary other-world.
Okay, if by peace is meant a total absence of any
kind of pain, mental or physical, that is quite a true statement. As long as the body is there, physical pain (necessary
at times to signal discordance in the organ systems) will also remain.
If I were to follow your line of reasoning then indeed the only way to avoid
physical pain is to be dead or even better still, not to be born in the first place.
I for one am very appreciative that other human beings have invented drugs
that not only relieve pain but that can render me unconscious should it be necessary prior to the pain becoming so
strong that I would naturally become unconscious. But I fail to see what this has got to do with becoming free of the
human condition … or are you saying that becoming free is impossible because human beings can have accidents, can
become sick, certainly get old and certainly die in the end? If so, this sounds suspiciously close to the core of the
Buddhist (fatalist?) philosophy that ‘Life on earth is essentially suffering’.
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When the spiritual teachers point out that the
student is not being sincere enough, hard-working enough, the actualists blast the teacher considering the method to be
itself flawed.
Again the spiritual method is not flawed, it’s not the spiritual teachers
that are at fault, it is the spiritual *teachings* – the mishmash of ancient fairy stories, pathetic homilies
and fear-ridden superstitions together with the venerated state of delusion known as enlightenment – that are
hopelessly flawed.
That’s what I said above. The teachings contain
the method, don’t they? My point is, why do you neglect the insincerity of the student as a factor in the whole issue?
Because as far as I can ascertain from the thrust of your post you are
lumping actualism in the same category as spiritualism and what I am attempting to do is to point that out to you. Can
you see that the whole question as to whether or not the ‘students’ of spiritualism are sincere or not is irrelevant
because it is the spiritual teachings themselves that are flawed – not the students?
When I was attracted to spiritualism I, along with many others, was attracted
by the promise of peace on earth – of like-feeling people living in communes in peace and harmony. I was, in your
words, a sincere student as were many others of my fellow seekers. What I eventually found was that the whole experiment
failed, firstly because peace on earth was not part of the spiritual teachings, and secondly that the spiritual
teachings did not acknowledge, let alone address, the fundamental reason for human malice and sorrow – the genetically
encoded instinctual passions manifest in this body as ‘me’ a parasitical impassioned being.
Whilst other people may like attempt to denigrate me by making snide remarks
about my gullibility in treading the spiritual path, I am well pleased that I did because by having done so and having
experienced first hand its failures I was able to firmly close the door on spiritual belief once and for all.
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I remember realizing one day towards the end of my spiritual years that
millions upon millions upon millions of human beings had devoted their lives to the spiritual teachings – that the
East was littered with monasteries that have been filled with monks for millennia all of whom have diligently practiced
the teachings from dawn to dusk, every day of their lives from childhood to death.
No, only a few people had the gumption to go all the
away and question everything that had been taught to them. Rest were just parrots or machines. No wonder they did not
achieve liberation.
I remember thinking one day what would happen if everyone in the world
achieved spiritual liberation and all became enlightened all at once? Would a system of rosters be introduced such that
the throne was rotated, who would bow down to whom, who would touch whose feet, whose teachings would be followed, who
would clean the toilets, who would pull the rickshaws, who would be the most divine and who would be the most humble?
As I said, I am not at all interested in spiritual belief let alone spiritual
liberation – which is after all why I became an actualist.
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I was suddenly struck by the fact that if I really wanted to succeed in the
spiritual world, if I really wanted spiritual liberation, then I would at least have to do the same – turn my back on
the world completely, become celibate, eat brown rice, beg for my food from others and so and …
There have been enlightened teachers who were not
monks, in case you forget.
And yet I didn’t mention becoming a monk. I said that I realized that in
order to become enlightened I would have to turn my back on the world and abide by the rules and regulations of whatever
teachings or teacher I was following.
But given that you have mentioned monks, do you not find it somewhat curious
that in one of the Eastern countries where the whole society supports the monk business, the most revered of these
monks, He whose teachings they follow and whose guidance they seek, got his most-revered-ship not by sincere spiritual
practice but via the ‘miracle’ of reincarnation?
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… then, when I had achieved liberation, have people venerate and worship me
for having done so. As you can gather, it was about this time that I started to become suss of the whole spiritual
liberation/spiritual slavery game.
There have been enlightened teachers who actively
discouraged veneration and worship, in case you forget.
And there have been enlightened teachers who actively discouraged sex and
disparaged women and yet were partial to a clandestine ‘bit on the side’ as it were. I have also heard it said that
there are many enlightened people whom nobody knows about because they are completely anomous in that they don’t teach
and aren’t teachers. There are all sorts of myths and legends about enlightened teachers which is why I am happy to
have had the opportunity to observe the behaviour of a few of them up close so I could ascertain for myself the vast
gulf between myth and fact.
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Personally I had no trouble evaluating the failure of spiritual liberation
simply because I spent years inside the spiritual world and I know it inside out, as it were.
May I ask? How much effort did you put into your
meditation / seeking before evaluating it as a failure? Just curious.
I obviously spent enough time and made enough effort to come to the
conclusion that enough was enough.
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The failure of spirituality is not only an endemic failure, it is systemic
failure – not only the techniques (meditation and/or prayer is method whereby one practices dissociation and indulges
in imagination) …
I agree. Dissociation is not the way.
And yet how else do you suppose that the enlightened become
enlightened if not by dissociating from, sublimating and transcending the so-called Evil passions whilst enhancing and
identifying themselves with the so-called Good passions – why else would other people venerate them as being
transcendent Beings?
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[The failure of spirituality is not only an endemic failure, it is systemic
failure – not only the techniques (meditation and/or prayer is method whereby one practices dissociation and indulges
in imagination) … ] but the aims (spiritual liberation means that one becomes enslaved to some mythical God or
believes oneself to be the reincarnation of some mythical God).
Come on, the above is not true of the greatest
teachers.
Hmmm. Would those greatest teachers be those long dead teachers whose words
and intent we cannot truly know because all we know of their teachings are interpretations of the words they supposedly
said that have been passed down and reinterpreted from generation to generation of followers perhaps? Or are you talking
about someone who is walking and talking – someone about whom we humans here today can make an accurate assessment of
both their words and their deeds?
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[The failure of spirituality is not only an endemic failure, it is systemic
failure –] as well as the results (no peace on earth because the whole thrust of spiritualism is that peace is
ultimately only possible after physical death).
See my comment about physical pain above.
See my comment about your comment about physical pain above.
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I happened to be polishing up the ‘Introduction to Actual Freedom’
yesterday – we plan to include it as a PowerPoint presentation on the DVDs – and I was struck yet again by the fact
that the divergent and disparate nature of spiritual belief itself inevitably produces competing and conflicting groups
of human beings all of whom feel their particular belief, be it monotheist, henotheistic, pantheistic, polytheistic,
agnostic, Eastern, Western or whatever, to be superior to the beliefs of other human beings.
Given that this innate feeling of superiority/inferiority is an inevitable by
product of the very act of believing itself, the best feeling one can muster towards one’s fellow human beings in
these circumstances is a feeling of tolerance towards those who do not happen to share one’s own particular belief. To
feel superior to, to feel tolerant of, to feel compassion for or to feel pity for one’s fellow human beings is far
from a salubrious situation and a far cry from an actual peace and harmony between fellow human beings.
Even more insidious is the fact that the much-lauded Eastern spirituality
that is so fashionable these days has inferiority/superiority inbuilt such that it is manifest in many Eastern cultures
as an inviolate caste system. The belief in reincarnation, karma, dharma and imperfect souls calcifies the belief that
some people are born superior to others and some are born inferior to others and the appalling results of this belief
can be plainly seen in many Eastern cultures. The inbred arrogance and cultured indifference of those who feel
themselves to be born spiritually superior to those whom they believe, and who believe themselves, to be born
spiritually inferior results in an entrenched inequity that can only be described as abysmal.
The odd thing about now being able to so clearly see how and why spiritualism
has failed and always will fail to bring peace on earth is that I couldn’t see this whilst I was consumed by spiritual
belief. There is indeed no way to be able to clearly see the facts of the matter whilst holding to a belief that is
contrary to the facts of the matter – belief does indeed make one blind as it were.
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I notice you made no comment about the insidious caste system that has
evolved in much of the East as a direct result of the belief that some human beings are born with imperfect souls and
some being born with presumably more advanced souls dependant upon some past-life misdeeds or good deeds. Did your lack
of comment mean that you thought it irrelevant to the topic (the failure of spiritual belief) or was there some other
reason?

Unlike many on this list I was never part of any
spiritual group or movement, although I had always been interested in discovering what life was about and was involved
in ‘personal growth’ in the late 70’s/early 80’s.
I have scant knowledge about the personal growth movement but it would seem
to me that Eastern spirituality would have underpinned much of its philosophy, as it did most of psychiatry, psychology
and therapy in the last 100 years. Carl Gustav Jung and Wilhelm Reich, two of the prime movers of 20th
Century psychology and psychiatry, were both deeply interested and moved by Eastern spirituality. As a suggestion, and
it is only that, it may be interesting to go back and re-read some of what you were ‘in to’ before, just to look at
it with fresh eyes – both to see what your initial attraction was and what sense you make of it now. I know, for me,
it was very revealing to very deliberately re-visit the spiritual teachings I had been so ‘in to’ before I took on
actualism – I learnt so much vital information about myself, the human condition and the supposed wisdom of humanity.

Although this post is generally in response to the ‘Actualism and PCEs’
post of 23/01, I have retitled my reply because the general topic does seem to be shifting to actualism in the market
place, i.e. the process of becoming free of malice and sorrow, in the world as-it-is, with people as they are.
It is both a fascinating topic, which yet again serves to make a clear
distinction between ancient Spiritual freedom and an actual freedom from the human condition in total.
The mailing list I was last writing to had as its discussion topic at one
stage ‘how to be in the world but not of it’, which neatly sums up the spiritual approach. I would paraphrase this
as ‘how to begrudgingly accept being here while taking every opportunity to be there’. I found the contradictions,
sentence to sentence, in all of the contributor’s discussions to be quite bewildering. One moment they would talk of
going ‘there’, or going ‘inside’, and the next sentence they would be extolling the virtues of being ‘here’
... by their very words they were proving that they were not talking about the same place.
Whenever a contributor touched on the horrors of the human condition they
would soon indulge in the bitter-sweetness of feeling sorry for those poor ‘ignorant’ people, ennobling their own
pity as being superior by labelling it as feeling true compassion. Whenever someone dared to share the reality of their
own lives they would be reminded by other group members that they are not in fact human beings but that who they really
are is Divine spirits. Whenever someone began to despair of the human condition they were reminded that peace on earth
is ultimately impossible and one’s only hope is to seek solace in the hope of an other-worldly paradise. Should anyone
begin to question any of the passionate spirit-ual beliefs, or worse still, dare to question the teachings or the
teacher, the tribal elders or head Shamans would quickly pull them into line, either by seducing the group member
by sweet talk or disciplining them with a loving reminder. If seduction or castigation fail the ultimate threat is of
ostracization.
Once you are hooked into the spiritual world, it’s very tough to get out of
it.
I think I have wandered slightly off-topic because I began by talking about
the diametrically-opposite difference between coming here to the actual world and going ‘there’ to the spiritual
world. Just a little story from my spiritual years will illustrate the fact that actualism is 180 degrees different to
Spiritualism.
When I was a freshman spiritual disciple of Mohan Rajneesh, I remember being
awed when a long-time disciple told me that they had met Rajneesh in person and how, when he looked into His eyes, there
was nobody inside – meaning there was no personal self inside His body. I thought it a bit strange at the time because
I understood Enlightenment was about being here. But then again, personal Enlightenment was not really on my agenda
because I had joined up because I had fallen in love with Rajneesh and we, his Sannyasins, were going to change the
world by practically demonstrating to people that we could live together as a community in peace and harmony.
Some ten years later, when I met Rajneesh in person and looked into his eyes,
I realized he was not here at all but was really somewhere else. Of course, my experience was that he was not here in
the ‘real’ world, but had really gone ‘there’ to the spirit world – but he was definitely so far-out from
anything that was going on in the physical world that nothing could bring him back. This impression of far-far-outness,
as in being on another planet altogether, was confirmed only months later when he died and the words on his tombstone
read – ‘Never born, Never died, Just visited this planet’.
‘Tis strange looking back as to how the intensity of the feeling of love
could so blind me that I either ignored, or blatantly denied, the fact that I was the follower of a God-man, that I had
simply been suckered by his sweet talk, overwhelmed by the feeling of being loved and belonging to the congregation and
enraptured by his psychic cunning into being a faithful goody-two shoes, holier-than-thou, religious believer.
And not only that, my love for the God-man was unconditional – as in
totally faithful, totally loyal and totally unquestioning. Unquestioning of his duplicity, contradictions, lies,
deception, angry outbursts, his greed and lust for power, his blatant refusal to be responsible for anything he did or
said, his running away and abandoning his followers when the going got tough, his secretive sex-life and his
manipulation of those close to him for his own ends.
What an utter blind fool I had been, but then again ... once you are hooked
into the spiritual world – it’s very tough to get out of.

Pointing out wrong thinking and watching the
awakening that accompanies realization is great sport also.
My experience of God-men is that they like to ensnare others into loosening
their clinging to so-called wrong thinking and twist them into adopting Right thinking solely in order that they can
strut their own humble Self-Righteousness in return for admiration, gratitude, love and veneration.
*deep bow* Thank you for sharing.
It’s a pleasure to be able to pass on my experiences of 17 years on the
spiritual path.
The other day I came across a woman who was just starting on the spiritual
path and who was still shell-shocked at just having visited India for the first time. It struck me at the time, after 17
years of searching for peace and happiness on the spiritual path, how serendipitous it was to have come across an
ex-God-man who had discovered something far superior to the hallowed state of Enlightenment – an actual down-to-earth
freedom and not a fear-driven escape into an inner spiritual fantasy-land.
This serendipitous event has given me the opportunity to contribute to the
de-bunking of the shams and scams of the utterly ‘Self’-centred spiritual path by writing of my experience and
making it freely available for others to peruse. And then, on top of that, I get to write of my experience and expertise
in utilizing the actualism method to become actually free of the human condition.
Where I come from, sharing is making your experience and expertise freely
available for others who are interested – to hide nothing, to sweep nothing under the table.
For a normal person sharing means sharing their feelings of malice and sorrow
– what is commonly known as having a gossip, having a whinge, having a bitch, having a heart to heart, connecting,
giving support, being honest, etc.
My experience with God-men is they don’t share – they hide much from
others and are driven to preach and proselytize to others.

It took me 17 years of exploration on the so-called spiritual path to finally
understand, acknowledge, and act upon, the fact that spiritualism was nothing other than ‘Olde-Time Religion’. Every
pundit, teacher or follower I met or group I was in felt they were unique or that they were specially ‘chosen’ in
having the truth of their existence revealed to them personally. Spiritual revelations and experiences are music to ‘me’,
as soul, and inevitably lead to ‘self’-ish introspection and an increased detachment from actuality.
My experience of religious and spiritual groups was
just that it was more of the same-same in human affairs and interactions: in other words, the same people vying for
position and power, the same coercion by the group on how to think and behave, the same dynamics of leader-follower,
etc. I don’t know now what I thought would be different. Religion promises but does not deliver. I wanted at one point
to immerse myself in a monastery where my life would be molded and controlled for me by others.
The process in the religious/ spiritual world of subjecting oneself to a
Power or Powers and the earthly representatives of that power has its analogy in the work world with its hierarchy and
office politics.
There are generally two archetypes on the spiritual path – those who
devotedly follow and those who desperately seek. I was very content with being a devoted follower of a Guru until the
death of my son got me off my bum and made me into a seeker. The timing was serendipitous for soon after my son’s
death my Guru died and I witnessed first-hand the inevitable formation of yet another dead-God-man religion. And I
clearly saw that spiritual people are nothing other than normal people – it’s just that they tend to be a bit
sillier for they have gone off into la la land.

I would appreciate, too, your opinion on why I ‘sound
Spiritual’ ... I don’t doubt your obvious expertise in this field but would appreciate specific examples, if
possible. I do not wish to be ruled by ancient wisdoms, truths etc. My inherent common sense has always steered me away
from the tried and failed logic of my family and ancestors.
I have commented repeatedly about specific points in your posts that sounded
spiritual to me and I see no point in going over old ground, ad nauseam. In your last post you said – ‘I am not
at all interested in the spiritual’ and I don’t doubt you at all. I would only say that not being interested is
not the same thing as actively investigating your spiritual conditioning, be it Eastern and Western or both, such that
you become free of it. As an example, what you said in full was ‘I am not at all interested in the spiritual
(though I have gotten too much into my head at times)’ which indicates a typical spiritual viewpoint of what ‘being
spiritual’ is.
The current New Dark Age spiritualism can be seen generally as having two
broad paths or approaches.
There is the right thinking/being the watcher approach, whereby thinking –
or wrong thinking to be accurate – is deemed to be the source of all evil and one develops a new identity as an aloof
right thinker. This path is typified by J. Krishnamurti’s teachings and most of Buddhism.
The other is the more emotive heart approach where any and all thinking is
derided and one forms a new identity as a truly loving being. This path is typified by devotee religions such as
Rajneeshism, various forms of Hinduism, Sufism, etc.
To become free of the real world and the spiritual world requires an
active deprogramming of all of the opinions, beliefs, morals, ethics and automatic instinctual reactions that have been
programmed into your brain. To do this requires a burning curiosity and an intense observation and investigation of this
programming, in you, in action – in short you need to develop a vital interest in what it is to be spiritual and how
it manifests in yourself.
You need to become interested in what makes you ‘tick’ – what makes you
moody, worried, angry, sad, lonely, upset, peeved, melancholy, dissociated, lacklustre, bored, remote, etc. if you at
all aspire to becoming actually free of being continually run by these emotions.
Is this not good sense?

Many, many spiritual people, despite their years on the spiritual path, have
never ever bothered to investigate their social/spiritual conditioning as many simply swapped their Western beliefs for
Eastern beliefs. The main reason for this blindness is the practice of denial and transcendence – they don’t want to
be here anyway and have no interest at all in being a happy and harmless citizen of the world. ‘Be in the world but
not of it’ is the best they can muster – a pathetic statement of non-committal non-participation, if ever there was
one. They never connect their own feelings of nationalistic pride with war and conflict between nations, they never
connect their own spiritual beliefs with war and conflict between religions, they never connect their own inability to
live with others in peace and harmony as being at all related to the violent events on the evening news. Their armour of
denial, their myopic ‘self’-centred selective awareness and their comfortable cocoon of moral superiority and
associated spiritual pride serves to isolate them in an inner world totally of their own making.
I found that after my spiritual years I was totally ignorant of the inherent
workings and functional aberrations of the Human Condition and I deliberately embarked on a journey of exploration,
comfortably undertaken lazing in front of the TV or sitting in front of the computer. This investigation of grim reality
and the imagined Greater Reality is essential if one is to break the stranglehold that the utterly selfish Eastern
spiritual teachings have had in all aspects of one’s thinking about the Human Condition, the universe and what it is
to be a human being. It is such an exciting exploration to discover the facts of what it is to be a human being as
opposed to being a mere mouther of everyone else’s Truths and psittacisms.
Actual Freedom and autonomy has to be earned by stubborn and persistent
effort – it is not granted by grace to the meek and mild.

The other thing I have been musing over is the curious reaction from
Sannyasins to my Journal. I liked Sannyas and Sannyasins, particularly in the early days. There was a sense of
pioneering, challenging the norm, giving it a boots and all approach. Now I get many people telling me ‘I’m all
right’, ‘I’m watching my self’, ‘I’m happy’, ‘Life goes on and I’m going with the flow’, ‘I am
already That, all I have to do is realize it’ ‘There is nothing I can do – it is all in God’s hands’ etc. etc.
Acceptance was always an acceptance of me as I was, whereas if I was honest with myself, I wasn’t the best I could be
– I wasn’t free.

As for your notion that the experiment failed, I see
no possible way you could know that, as the experiment continues even if it is only with me.
I have written in detail of my experiences and why the spiritual path failed
not only for me but for millions of others down the ages, but you stubbornly refuse to want to read anything of my
story. What you do with your life is your business, after all, it is your life. I say that as a fact. And it is so
perfect that it is that way. I am simply offering an alternative for anyone who has doubts about the spiritual path, its
workings and its results.

Being a Sannyasin for me was/is about making
choices. And the choices are taking personal responsibility or avoiding personal responsibility. Both are the available
options, and still there are no guarantees of outcomes regardless of one’s choices.
So does this mean that it doesn’t matter what one does, it is all right
anyway. I read a bit of Ramesh Balsekar the other day and he said it didn’t matter if you killed someone as it would
have been God’s will anyway. I truck with none of this. I enjoy freely and sensibly exercising my will – no God’s
will operates in this body.

There was a book I read recently called ‘Hell-bent for Enlightenment’ and
I bought a copy as it was about someone’s personal search for freedom from the Human Condition. When I read the book I
was fascinated to see that her ‘Enlightenment’ would occur next year upon death and then she would ‘drop out
and go back to where I came from’. It struck me again that this is nothing more than the Heaven I thought such a
silly idea as a kid.

All of the major philosophical movements are built upon the supposed
teachings of long dead wise men, pundits and philosophers. Any so-called modern wisdom
... you are confusing orthodoxy with realization
Realization is about as orthodox as you can get. Everybody’s doing it. The
latest versions are called ‘Awakenings’ and are a bit watered down wherein one still has a few ‘personality quirks’
remaining – like anger, jealousy, sadness, depression, rage, impatience, etc.
*
Have you not read any religious, spiritual or philosophical books?
Certainly, I read all of them, but finally I read
me...
In the spiritual books the ending is always – and then I realized I was God
and God was me, or some similar version. Which is what everybody finds if they search inside. Funny that – no-one
finds that they are a human being, they always find they are a God. Reminds me of past lives – not too many farmers
from Burringyup.
It is timeless and always individual... always a
discovery.
Always individual?
It is the discovery of ‘I am’ and thus
individual... indivisible... Knowing truth means knowing there is no ‘me’ or ‘my’
I think I have read hundreds of variations on this theme from spiritual books
and Gurus, but if you insist it is individual you are in good company anyway.
*
Strange, to watch hundreds of people, sitting isolated, with their eyes
closed, going inside and imagining ‘feeling connected’
This projection of yours is at the heart of all your
bullshit. It is you who is imagining that the others are imagining feeling contented.
Are you saying you don’t have a feeling of ‘feeling connected’ when you
go ‘inside’? Isn’t this the point – to feel Love or Agapé? I hardly see this as a projection. Why else does one
meditate? Why else does anyone seek Union?
What you do over and over is to make a false
statement such as ‘Ancient wisdom is good old religion’ and then groove on your own misunderstanding. On the other
hand you could be a Boring Again Christian yourself because you are so deaf and dogmatic...
To call someone a Christian seems to be the ultimate Sannyas insult.
I have nothing against Christians, some of my best
friends are Christians...You are like a boring again Christian who just says their script over and over and never
stops... because they are so convinced that they are right.
Given the spiritual nature of the list I am pointing out the facts about
spiritualism – that it is nothing more than Eastern Religion. Given that Religion and the belief in God has, and never
will, bring peace on earth – quite the contrary – I write of a new solution to the Human dilemma. How it is now
possible to rid yourself of malice and sorrow, should you so desire.
What you find boring I find an extraordinary development in human history.
Which is why I reply to all the objections. Maybe, just maybe, a new phrasing, a new aspect, a new fact will be the ‘crack
in the door’ for anyone who is interested.
*
To become free of the belief in good spirits and bad spirits. To break free
the slavery of the Master-disciple business
It is you who calls it slavery, that is your
interpretation.
Well, the first thing asked of any disciple of a Master is to surrender to
the Master. I remember in the early days of Sannyas the need to surrender was an essential requirement. One surrendered
to the Master and put one’s faith and trust in Him. This is not my ‘interpretation’. I can distinctly remember the
phrase ‘You are not surrendered enough ... Swami’ that was so often used in the commune.
Now, to surrender means to give in, as in ‘I give up’. For me that is
slavery – albeit willingly.

Yes indeed, and it is a thing I make no apologies for. Millions, if not
billions, have assiduously practiced their methods, sat in their presence, and gave their lives in loving gratitude and
humiliation for nil result – except for a tiny few who get ‘it’ and then get to become the ones to whom others
then practice their methods, sit in their presence, and give their lives in gratitude and humiliation ...
You seem to build your whole rap on speculations and
projections. Then from there spin off into the clouds with your new found way to be. But if you start with building on
delusions where can you end but with anything but delusions??
Millions? Billions? give their lives? for nil?? just speculation and
projection. As far as I am concerned...these people devoted what they wished, learned what they learned, and went on to
live long productive peaceful loving ordinary lives... maybe some didn’t. So what!
‘Millions, if not billions’ is a reference to all the devotees of Eastern
spirituality (Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Shintoism, Taoism, Zen, etc.) in all the thousands of years, many, many of
whom spent their lives secluded in monasteries or ashrams (in Tibet, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, Korea, India etc.) or
devoting hours of their days in meditation, ‘watching’, praying, or the like. The recent influx and western interest
in spirituality is but a ‘blimp’ on the vast sweep of history. The point of my statement was that once this became
evident to me I was able to put my position in perspective. The failure rate of producing profound individual awakenings
(Enlightenment) of the Eastern religions became startlingly evident, as did my arrogance in assuming that I could do any
better. The other issue was that despite (or because of) the numbers, sincerity and effort of all these people the
countries had appalling levels of poverty, disease, corruption, repression of women, and often downright theocracies. I
fail to see this as speculation and projection. A study of history and an open-eyed visit to the East will still confirm
this to be the case in many countries.

The path of the devotee is a reality to many, and my
perception is that probably just as many reach this way as any other. AND, I agree that most don’t awaken.
If by reach you mean become Enlightened, the figure I have heard quoted is
0.0001% of devotees. Ken Wilber in ‘What is Enlightenment’ magazine
But so what? What’s your problem with the world AS
IT IS?
Well for me it hit me like a ton of bricks one day when I realised that the
spiritual path is not a new thing – millions if not billions of Easterners have painstakingly and diligently practiced
meditation, witnessing, watching, retreating from the real world, etc. for thousands of years with so few ‘reaching’
and no tangible, actual change in the the Human Condition for the rest – humans are still firmly in the grip of malice
and sorrow. The problem with the world AS IT IS is that humans still fight horrendous wars 160,000,000 killed in wars
this century alone and the proffered hallowed solutions are a mere fantasy escape from this reality.
When I was in the first stages of awakening, as
perhaps you are,
No, I have had a few of these awakenings and there was still a ‘me’
there, except I became a Grand ‘ME’ – I was Love, Existence and I were one and the same.
I was trying to convince everyone of what I saw as
the truth.
I never got that far as I realized that if I kept on with pursuing my ‘awakenings’
that I would end up Enlightened and it was happening at a time that I was starting to have more than a few reservations
about Enlightenment as a career path. In short, I didn’t like their lifestyles, I didn’t like how they were with
their women, and I didn’t like the whole worship, God-men bit. I’m not being facetious, as you probably see it –
it is how I saw it. It was at the time when I was deciding what I wanted to do with my life, and when I met Richard and
he said you can become happy and harmless, actually free of any malice and sorrow whatsoever, in the market place, on
earth, right now, right here – I took up the offer – and it worked.
I was in a way right, but I was trying to change the
world. This arrogance is actually hurtful as it is not accepting.
Yes, it is such a strong instinctual pull to go for the Glamour, Glory and
Glitz of being the Saviour of mankind. I battled with it for months on the path to Actual Freedom and I wrote about it
in my journal, the God chapter, if you are interested.
As for change the world – their are 5.8 billion people currently and what
an impossible task. I turned it around 180 degrees and focused my entire efforts and energies on changing me – the
only one I could change and the only one I was vitally interested in. After all I have to live my life, if I am
not happy now, then I have something to look at, something to do, something to dig in to, something to change. I made my
being happy and harmless the most important thing in my life. As for accepting others the other remarkable thing is that
I now like my fellow human beings, I neither fear them or feel aggression towards them. I wish them well in life. And I
offer my experiences and expertise, with neither humility nor arrogance, to anybody who writes to me.
I began to realize that people awaken in their time,
that learning only happens thru living, and there are no shortcuts.
As I said, others are not my concern as to what they do with their lives, my
happiness depends on no one else. But if someone writes I am delighted to talk of my favourite subjects.
When you really get Osho, you get the joke ... that
seriousness is the problem.
I just decided as nothing else was working after 17 years on the spiritual
path I would give something else a whirl. Sincere, honest, obsessed, serious – yes, at the time since it was my life
and my happiness I was concerned.
These days its not at all serious, this business of being a human being. I
just need to make sure I have enough money for my simple needs – rent, food, and a computer mainly. I sold my car and
bought a computer thinking it would be cheaper, but hmmm...
Each day I awake, knowing I will have a perfect day and knowing that the only
essential thing is to eat. A sense of well being that is palpable is my constant experience, on top of which I get to do
cute things like write to you.
Life was meant to be easy, simple, direct, obvious, sensate, delightful,
harmonious, ever fresh each moment...

So, unlike the other metaphysical and philosophical theories of freedom this
one works and delivers and, as such, easily rebuffs charlatans and frauds. The proof is in the actual and in my
experience if you can prove an end to malice and sorrow in equitable one-on-one companionship you have ‘put your money
where your mouth is’. There is no greater test of fire than sexual freedom and equity, than for man and woman to live
together in utter peace and harmony – not in theory but in practice.
The Gurus have failed to deliver, they have had their day. The old ancient,
long dead ones have eschewed morals and ethical precepts for their followers who have fought horrendous wars as to the
Rightness of their masters or own particular God’s vision. And as for the modern Gurus, I know them well to be
pretenders. I have seen the despair that ravages their private lives and those around them. The chaos and duplicity of
their personal lives, their sexuality, their treatment of women, the psychic powers and the entrapment, surrender and
eventual total emotional dependency and enslavement of their disciples is but a sad useless re-run of all that has gone
before. No wonder the spiritual or religious pursuits require bucket-loads of faith, trust and hope – it is needed in
the face of its continual failure to produce the goods – peace on earth.
What I am saying to you is that Enlightenment is finished, now that Richard
has exposed it from the ‘inside’. Discipleship and the Spiritual Path are also finished and Vineeto and I have
exposed the fraud that it is nothing other than Eastern Religion masquerading in sheep’s clothing. So maybe, just
maybe, it is worth while considering that everybody (including yourself) has got it 180 degrees wrong. Not just a bit
wrong, but all wrong.
It can be an enormous blow to pride, particularly male pride – I know it
was for me – but I am immensely pleased I let go of the ‘tried and failed’. I did however have to acknowledge I
was neither happy nor harmless in order to even begin to become free of the crippling Wisdom of the Past. And then I got
to be a pioneer on the path to actual freedom and I always liked to do a bit of pioneering occasionally, to dare to be
authentic and original is such a hoot.
It’s such good fun being a human being.

Yes, but what’s not a fact is that a teaching is a
failure because carnage has not been stopped. Understanding of a teaching can’t be pushed down peoples throats. They
have to do it themselves. A master or teacher can’t force himself on people. He offers an opportunity to understand,
but many people unable to console themselves with third rate concepts, after all it’s easier, with all trouble you
mentioned as a result, yes.
Okay, here is another idea you can deny or object to. I’ve got an endless
supply, by the way. So let’s say there have been about 10 billion human beings who have walked the planet since
cave-man times. Let’s say there have been about 1,000 masters or ‘good-quality teachers’ who have known and not
merely pretended. My guess is that there have been at least 1 billion who have given the teachings a ‘fair go’ in
their lives. They may not have realized the Truth but they have sincerely tried their best to live by the teachings. And
yet, we humans still fight and kill each other. There is not even a semblance of hope that peace and harmony is possible
on the planet.
So what you are saying is that the 1,000 teachers are right and the 1 billion
followers are wrong.
This is only a suggestion, but maybe, just maybe, you might consider, if only
for a second or two, that the ... teachings could be wrong?
What twigged me was the possibility that ... everyone has got it 180 degrees
wrong.

There is usually a clap of thunder and a flash of lightning and that’s
that. End of discussion.
So, Ancient Wisdom is the Wisdom of Humanity – the set of ‘rules’ how
it is to be a human being on the planet.
The mother of all Wisdom is ‘you can’t change Human Nature’. When I met
Richard he said ‘Of course you can! Why not?’
I liked that... Why not indeed!
That’s not my understanding. But if a human wants
to change its nature a set of rules is fine. One has to start somewhere. Intelligence will find its way.
No, the essential requirement of the ‘set of rules’ on the spiritual path
is to leave one’s intelligence and further to surrender one’s will to God. One is doubly doomed. Intelligence is
thwarted by the call to trust and unquestioning faith and the demand of surrender, devotion and loyalty enslave one for
the term of one’s natural life. A high price to pay for the hope of a mythical after-life. The only benefits in this
life is the feeling of being one of the chosen few – one gets to feel sorry for those not especially chosen or those
who are backing the wrong horse in following a lesser or false God. For this insanity one sells one’s freedom, denies
one’s intelligence and surrenders ‘lock, stock and barrel’. To surrender is to admit defeat to the possibility of
living, on this earth, as a flesh and blood human being – and this act of surrender inherently requires an enormous
faith in an after-life – one is trapped in a vicious circle.

As for Sannyas, I’ve never been into believing in
God; as a matter of fact, Osho repeatedly said God doesn’t exist.
I know many discourses where he talks of God, Oneness, Divine, Sacred, Holy,
Nirvana, Love, Being, Buddha Nature etc. The use of words with capital letters in all his writings and books is a clear
indication of God or the Divine in whatever form or description. The Eastern spiritual tradition is not monotheist like
most Western spiritualism and, as such, God is a slippery concept, and deliberately so.
Yes, slippery, like a bar of soap one desperately
tries to grasp when taking a shower. Don’t know why you insist on talking about God. There is no God, for Christ’s
sake!
I keep forgetting that for Sannyasins now Rajneesh is God, not merely the
Master ‘who’s finger points to the moon’. He is the moon, hence the shift in Sannyas from seeking enlightenment
and freedom to grateful prayer, worship and devotional servitude to Him. I wrote a bit in my journal of the time when it
first became apparent to me that Rajneesh was God and Sannyas was a Religion – ... ‘I returned to the West for more
work, a bit of travelling and another relationship. Almost my entire work and friendships were within the Rajneesh
community, or the ‘Club’ as I called it, but even this attachment was beginning to wane. When the men, particularly,
would gather and talk about the Ranch, it always reminded me of old soldiers retelling their stories and I thought: ‘Is
this how I’m going to live my life out; remembering the Good Old Days?’ I went back to Poona once more but it was
very clear it had finished for me. After all, the whole attraction of the spiritual path in the first place was that I
regarded it not as Religion – it involved being in the presence of a living Master, and now he was dead. I had even
come to see the pictures of Rajneesh that hung on the walls of friends’ houses as no different to the little statues
of ‘Jesus-nailed-to-the-cross’ that I saw on the walls in Catholic homes as a teenager’ ... Methinks you have your
own God and happily dismiss anyone else’s God – a common form of slipperiness well used in the spiritual world.
*
Whichever way you look at it, both Eastern and Western Spirituality clearly
indicate a ‘something else’ or ‘somewhere else’ apart from this physical universe
Well to try to uphold that the universe is only
physical leads to absurdities when one uses common sense. Sooner or later you will have to invent some or other God, a
physical one of course. The concept of a universe as being only physical is as slippery as the concept of a God...
Many people have already resorted to bestowing Godly qualities or energies on
the physical universe – anthropomorphism abounds, hence the term Universe with a capital U. Anyone of spiritual
conviction is so far from having the ability to apply common sense that for them to even use the term leaves me gasping
in incredulity. Common sense or native intelligence only begin to come into play when the human brain is freed of the
absurdities and restrictive covenants applied by believing Ancient Wisdom. Then, and only then, can one look at the bulk
of the social identity, and only then one can explore the core instinctual emotions. By developing a firm and
self-convincing spiritual identity on top of an already enveloping social conditioning one has gone even further away
from both common sense and the senses of the physical body. The denial of the body and the mind evidenced by such
Wisdoms as ‘you are not the body/mind’ confirm this non-sensical retreat. It is a long and rocky road back to the
senses and to common sense – it is the greatest challenge facing Humanity at this time and it is the personal journey
of a life-time to accept the challenge. That the physical universe is not a concept is easily demonstrated by putting
gaffer tape over your mouth, holding your nose and waiting 10 minutes. As you rip the tape from your mouth, gulping air
you may well begin to consider that the physical universe is a fact for you, not just a concept. As for the slippery
concept of God, this conversation stands testimony to that fact.
*
To call a spade a spade – it’s all God ... be it by any other name ... a
‘something else’ or ‘somewhere else’ apart from this physical universe.
Part of the human condition is this eternal duality:
some say the universe is all physical, some say it is all God. I don’t take sides... To take sides is to get stuck in
the mud...
This is the ‘one foot in each world’-philosophy upheld by many. It
equates to ‘I’ll get on as best I can in the real world and I’ll sprinkle a bit of religion to keep up my ‘brownie
points’ for the after-life’. The eternal duality that you talk of is the battle between good and bad, God and the
Devil, Sacred and profane. As such, anyone who leaves the en-trapment of the spirit-ual world of good, God and Sacred
can only be seen as going towards the bad, the Devil and profane. But, of course, there are no Devils, there are no
Demons in the actual world. They exist only in the heads of those who believe in them. The Actual world is benign,
benevolent, abundant, opulent, ambrosial – a literal sensual paradise, both infinite and eternal. And all happening,
here, now. As for ‘one foot in each world’ – step out of both worlds, leave your ‘self’ – and ‘Self’ –
behind and step into the actual world. * The belief in an after-life is exactly what prevents human beings from being
here on the planet, now at this moment, as a flesh and blood only human being. Each human has a soul, or psychic entity
that ‘feels’ separate and alien, and wants to desperately believe in an after-life. This ‘me’, usually evidenced
as fear, is aware that the flesh and blood body will inevitably die and therefore ‘my’ only chance of surviving is
to believe in an afterlife or seek Divinity and Immortality.

I have enjoyed your writings. But only one thing has
been questionable to me. Its about being disciple of Osho. As far as I have understood, you seem to had been a disciple
of him to get something, Enlightenment, actual freedom, or anything you can call. It sounds a kind of bargain to me. It
is very strange compared with my experience of being a disciple of him.
Yes, I am starting to wonder myself what people become a disciple of a Master
for? What is it that they are seeking – if anything at all?
When I said I was seeking peace and freedom I was howled down.
When I said it was a New Man – peace on earth – I was similarly scorned.
And yet when I ask anyone why they are a disciple the silence is deafening
– it as though I have asked some very strange question that they have never ever thought about. I know that when I
took Sannyas I was pretty much ‘going with the flow’ and it was at a stage when it became apparent what an awful
place the ‘real’ world was.
It was only the death of my 13 year old son, that shook me out of my lethargy
and set me searching for freedom from the ‘shackles’ that I could feel bound me. And I wanted to be free – as this
flesh and blood body – before I died. The sight of the dead body of one so young and so close to me gave me both the
intent and the sense of urgency to ‘get off my butt’ and to not stop searching until I found.
A month later, I was watching Rajneesh’s body burning down by the river,
and ‘more shit hit the fan’ – I knew I was on my own ... my Master was dead.
Still, I hung in out of loyalty, love and gratitude, but I could also see the
religion forming all too clearly. I got a glimpse of the absurdity of it all one night while shouting Ya-Hoo to an empty
chair, with thousands of others dressed in long white robes – ‘Is this what my life has come to?’
Despite this glimpse of sanity it still took me another 2 years to swallow my
pride and admit I was in a religion.
By the way, my dictionary defines a disciple as ... ‘an
adherent of the doctrines of another; a follower’ – Macquarie
You are now OK. Its good. But I think being disciple
of Osho is not what you have experienced while you were a Rajneeshee.
Well, in the ‘good old days’ we renounced the ‘real’ world, joined
the commune, donned orange robes, wore a mala, and ‘worshipped’ 10 or so hours a day.
There seems to be a milder more laid-back ‘Meditation Club’ type disciple
emerging these days. Fair enough, the ‘serious’ approach really ended when the Ranch folded.
‘Aye ... it’s not like it was in the old days’ ... Oops ... I’m
starting to sound a bit like the ‘old boys’ talking about the ranch days in the corner at some Sannyasin gathering.
No, look, I haven’t got a problem at all with your objection to what I say
being based on questioning my ‘disciplehood’.
I’m ‘OK’ now, as you put it, precisely because I questioned my
disciplehood, and the facts I discovered were a shattering blow to my pride.
For me, it’s just so unbelievably good not to need to follow, to need to
trust, to need to have faith, or to need to believe ... to be free of all that is an amazing experience, to be free of
the ‘shackles’ I felt when I stood by my son’s coffin.

‘Subtle, sparkling, dazzling, glorious, and
radiantly awesome, in appearance like a mirage moving across a landscape in spring-time in one continuous stream of
vibrations... That is the radiance of thine own true nature.’ – Bardo Thodol
Ah, the affectations and feelings in full flight, seductive as ever. Ever
promising and ever failing to deliver except in fleeting glimpses, unless by supreme effort (usually suffering) one
becomes fully deluded into feeling glory and awe. ‘Thine own true nature’ is of course to realise that one is ‘timeless,
never-ending, always has been, always will be’
It is an enormous construct that has been built up over millennia and as such
is not at all easy to begin to question let alone see through in it’s entirety. The only guide is the peak experience,
or Pure Consciousness Experience (PCE), when one is able to directly experience the perfection and purity of the
physical universe free of any ‘self’ whatsoever, free of a personal ‘self’ and free of the ‘Grand Self’. We
tend not to recall these experiences or re-interpret them later as spiritual experiences, such is the instinctual
cunning of the ‘self’ to remain in existence.
A Self is, after all still, a self, merely in a grander form, and a deluded
one at that, as ‘it’ then believes it is immortal and will survive after physical death of the ‘body/mind’.
Everybody has got it 180 degrees wrong – such is the overwhelming power
both of wishful thinking and passionate feelings.

Please consider this to be a polite letter.
Please consider this to be a polite reply,
I’ll try to be polite, more sensitive, not so serious, less arrogant, more
grateful, briefer, more humble, less verbose, more sensitive, less ignorant, more loving, less boring, more concise, ...
..
Yeah Gads, I’ll end up being normal (or spiritual) again if I took
everybody’s advice.

This will be your new name, Swami Anand Deleeto.
Will it be difficult to pronounce? Anand means Bliss and Deleeto means clean, wiped away. The bliss of wiping away.
Hi Anand Deleeto, I see that No 27 has just freshly initiated you into the
world of Sannyas.
You don’t know me at all but I thought I would write to you as a fellow
human being to offer you a couple of Web addresses if you want some facts about the spiritual world you are in and
information on a new, non-spiritual down-to-earth Actual Freedom.
I wish you well with your new life, but if you find it isn’t working, that
you still have doubts, that you still feel something is missing, I offer Richard’s Web-site and the Peter and Vineeto Web-site.
You will probably hear on the grapevine that we are disgruntled ex-Sannyasins
with a grudge, the ‘terrible twins’, or that we didn’t ‘get it’, or that we are flogging some rival version of
the Truth. That we are pretending it is ‘something new’ when it isn’t Really – the usual stuff.
It’s just an offer, something to check out, if you are interested.
And just a comment on No 27’s words to you after your initiation – but
only if your interested, Deleeto ...
This will be your new name, Swami Anand Deleeto.
Will it be difficult to pronounce? Anand means Bliss and Deleeto means clean, wiped away. The bliss of wiping away.
Ah, yes. The feeling of leaving the ‘normal’ world behind – to take on
a new name, a new identity and a new role – the spiritual seeker – and to join a commune of fellow seekers. The
Club.
It is such a bliss to silence the endless stream of
words. Sometimes one has to do it again and again because the words keep coming. The words are so alluring, perhaps I am
missing something, one thinks. So one stops a bit and looks and listens, but after a while one sees that it is only a
repetition.
Ah, Anand Deleeto. I see here that Sw. No. 27 is alluding to silencing the
‘endless stream of words’ from the actual world, from this very computer. He is advising you that it is boring
repetition, and not to get trapped in it. But I guess if you bother to wade through the words you will make your own
evaluation. I just like it that there is now an alternative to the ‘Tried and True’ spiritual path. I would also
point out that the Tried and True is the ‘Tried and Failed’ in that it has been persuade by millions, if billions of
people for millennia with only .0001% achieving Enlightenment and the countless religious wars, cleansings, perversions
persecutions, tortures and repressions are the inevitable result of the whole spiritual – i.e. spirit-based – belief
system.
The mind can only endlessly repeat thousand year old
arguments. There is nothing new under the sun. It is all a futile exercise like moving furniture around in an empty
room.
Anand Deleeto, here he is obviously referring to the Ancient texts and myths.
Indeed within the spiritual world there is nothing new under the sun. Rajneesh himself talked endlessly about all sorts
of Masters and all sorts of other religions and teachings and was a master at telling old myths, stories and legends
What I am talking of is outside of the spirit-ual world. You see, I am an
atheist – I live in the actual world where Good Spirits and Evil Spirits, Gods or Demons simply do not exist. They are
but a collective fantasy of the psychic world. These Spirits or ‘energies’ – all generated in the psyche by a fear
ridden ‘I’ do not actually exist.
So, No 27 has told you, there can be nothing new under the sun and that this
is the best we human beings can expect. To be born into a world where everyone is fighting and squabbling and you end up
doing it yourself because ‘this is the way it is’. And there is a ‘reward’ for our suffering ... we simply turn
away, go inside and imagine there is a ‘somewhere’ better or a ‘someone’ who is looking after me. Surely there
has got to be something better under the sun, and there is. An actual freedom from sorrow and malice is now available if
you are interested.
Slowly, slowly one gains courage. Be brave, Anand
Deleeto, trust your intuition. It was not there before, it is not there now. Dare to wipe away and enjoy the bliss.
On the spiritual path, Deleeto, you will be admonished to leave your mind at
the door, surrender your will, and trust your feelings. You will be encouraged to sit silently and go within to
encourage a stilling of personal thoughts in order to begin to feel Bliss and Oneness. In short, you will give full
reign to your feelings and emotions. ‘You’ who you feel you are will become grander and grander, bigger and bigger,
and if you really work hard at it, one day – POP! ... you will realize that you are GOD!
So if you trust your intuition, trust your feelings – you are but doing a
wonderful job in keeping your ‘self’ in existence – from ‘self’ to ‘Self’.
For me, I knew my ‘self’ was the problem and eventually saw that to blow
it up in self-aggrandizement was to be going 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
But this is just what I have found. You will obviously make your own
observations and judgements as to what you do with your life-time on earth.
It has been nice to drop you a line (... or a post, as it is these days), Deleeto.
It was really just to give you a couple of sites to check out if you are ever
interested, and have the time ... but then I got off on one of my raves again.
But then again, if you are true to your name, you won’t even be reading this, but maybe someone else will, and maybe
they will be intrigued.
The Net is such a good thing like that. You are free to follow up anything
you want to know about or deleeto anything else.
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